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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 06:19:32 EST
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Subject: Tell Your Colleagues About NACHO
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To: NACHO Members
From: Jim Kaufman
The National Association of Chemical Hygiene Officer is
celebrating its one month anniversary with over 200 members
(full and affiliate). Please tell your colleagues about the new
organization and the opportunity for focused discussion on lab
safety/CHO/CHP issues here at LABSAFETY-L
Joining NACHO is simple (if I hadn't gotten it so wrong in earlier
messages... sorry!). All you need to do is.....
1. Send a message to: LISTSERV@SIU.EDU
2. Make the title of the message: Join NACHO
3. In the body of the message say (only):
SUB LABSAFETY-L Your Name
Please forward this message to anyone who might be interested
in joining with other colleagues to talk about labsafety/cho/chp
issues. Ask them if they have heard about the new organization
Remember, the first public meeting of NACHO is scheduled for
Wednesday, June 24, 1998 from 6-9pm in Raleigh-Durham in
conjunction with the LS&EM98 meeting. The exact location
will be listed here in the future. All are welcome and there is
no charge or registration fee for the NACHO meeting.
Between now and then, it is important for us to develop an
agenda for the meeting. What subject would you like to have
discussed? ...jak
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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:44:00 -0500
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From: Robert Alaimo <alaimo.rj@PG.COM>
Subject: Re: Tell Your Colleagues About NACHO
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: /S=labsafe@aol.com/OU=SMTP/O=1.UCN.GO.31/P=PROCTERGAMBLE/A=MCI/C=US/ at CC
To Jim or Eric,
Why not use the NACHO forum as promoter for Chemical Health & Safety Magazine.
Suggest it is the perfect resource for CHO's.
Bob Alaimo
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Date: 3/3/98 6:19 AM
To: NACHO Members
From: Jim Kaufman
The National Association of Chemical Hygiene Officer is
celebrating its one month anniversary with over 200 members
(full and affiliate). Please tell your colleagues about the new
organization and the opportunity for focused discussion on lab
safety/CHO/CHP issues here at LABSAFETY-L
Joining NACHO is simple (if I hadn't gotten it so wrong in earlier
messages... sorry!). All you need to do is.....
1. Send a message to: LISTSERV@SIU.EDU
2. Make the title of the message: Join NACHO
3. In the body of the message say (only):
SUB LABSAFETY-L Your Name
Please forward this message to anyone who might be interested
in joining with other colleagues to talk about labsafety/cho/chp
issues. Ask them if they have heard about the new organization
Remember, the first public meeting of NACHO is scheduled for
Wednesday, June 24, 1998 from 6-9pm in Raleigh-Durham in
conjunction with the LS&EM98 meeting. The exact location
will be listed here in the future. All are welcome and there is
no charge or registration fee for the NACHO meeting.
Between now and then, it is important for us to develop an
agenda for the meeting. What subject would you like to have
discussed? ...jak
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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:03:11 -0600
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From: "Frank H. Lankewicz" <flankewi@SEWANEE.EDU>
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The following job posting is a new position within the Office of
Environmental Health and Safety at The University of the South.
Please see web site for more information on The University of the South
(www.sewanee.edu)
The Environmental Health and Safety office of The University of the South
is seeking a Laboratory Compliance Manger/Chemical Hygiene Officer to
implement the University's Chemical Hygiene Plan and Laboratory Safety
Standards to the Science departments and the University at large. This
person will also work on other environmental health and safety issues as
requested by the Director of Environmental Health and Safety Office.
The ideal individual should have experience with the functions of academic
laboratories at small college or University and methods of communicating a
Chemical Hygiene Plan and Laboratory Safety Standards to faculty,
laboratory technicians and students.
Classification Title: LABORATORY COMPIANCE MANAGER/
CHEMICAL HYGIENE OFFICER
Effective Date: TO BE ANNOUNCED
Primary Function: IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CHEMICAL HYGIENE PLAN
Typical Duties & Responsibilities
PROVIDE TECHNICAL GUIDANCE AND INFORMATION IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROVISIONS OF THE CHEMICAL HYGIENE PLAN
LEARN AND OVERSEE THE USE OF THE COMPUTERIZED INVENTORY DATA
SYSTEM CALL CHEMMIST.
OVERSEE THE CHEMICAL INVENTORY PROGRAM
ASSURE LABORATORY WASTES ARE PROPER DISCARDED
COORDINATE THE MSDS PROGRAM
MOMITOR THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS CONCERNING HAZARDOUS SUBSTANCE,
OSHA, HAZARDOUS COMMUNICATION STANDARD, EPA REGULATIONS AND THE LABORATORY
STAMDARD
CONDUCT FORMAL CHEMICAL HYGIENE HOUSE KEEPING INSPECTIONS
SEEKS WAYS TO IMPROVE THE CHEMICAL HYGIENE PROGRAM
PROVIDE APPLICABLE INFORMATION AND TRAINING CONCERNING THE CONTENTS
OF THE CHEMICAL HYGIENE PLAN IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE LABORATORY
INSTRUCTOR
KEEP THE EHS OFFICE INFORMED OF ISSUES RELATING TO THE CHEMICAL
HYGIENE PLAN
CHECK EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT SUCH AS SPILL KITS AND EYE/SHOWER WASHES
ADVISE THE DIRECTOR OF EHS , DEAN, AND DEPARTMENT CHAIRS, ON
MATTERS OF CHEMICAL SAFETY POLICES AND PRACTICES
MAINTAIN A RESOURCE FILE OF REFERANCE PUBICATIONS ON SAFETY MATTERS
ENSURE ACTION IS TAKEN TO CORRECT LABORAYORY PRACTICES AND
CONDITIONS IDENTIFIED AS UNACCEPTABLE ON LABORATORY EVALUATIONS AND SAFETY
INSPECTIONS
Education: BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN RELATED FIELD
Experience: 1 YEAR ACADEMIC OR BUSINESS, RELAEVANT
EXPERIENCE WITH CHEMICAL SAFETY,HAZARDOUS WASTE DISPOSAL IN
ACADEMIC ENVIRONMENT
SEND RESUME TO:
______________________________
Frank H. Lankewicz
Director
Environmental Health & Safety
The University of the South
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, TN 37383-1000
Ph: 931/598-1916
Fax: 931/598-1745
email: flankewi@sewanee.edu
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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:06:23 -0500
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I would be interested in the lab safety guidelines..... what the heck send
any pertinent info to:
Diana K. Harding
674 EBA
New York State Education Department
Albany NY 12234
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:41:29 EST
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The Lab Standard asks employers to define in their CHPs
the circumstances requiring prior approval.
What are the circumstances that your employer requires
prior approval in your CHP?
I'll compile a summary of your comments and post it back to
LABSAFETY-L for you to use in "reviewing at least annually
and updating as needed". ...jak
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:10:37 -0600
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From: Harry Elston <helston@FGI.NET>
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At 07:41 AM 3/4/98 EST, you wrote:
>The Lab Standard asks employers to define in their CHPs
>the circumstances requiring prior approval.
>
>What are the circumstances that your employer requires
>prior approval in your CHP?
>
>I'll compile a summary of your comments and post it back to
>LABSAFETY-L for you to use in "reviewing at least annually
>and updating as needed". ...jak
Jim,
We've given considerable thought to this and this is what we came up with
at IDNS:
"Employees must obtain prior approval to proceed with a non-routine task
involving hazardous material or equipment. Prior approval shall not be
given until each employee assigned to the non-routine task has received a
safety briefing of the hazards associated with the task. Such a briefing
shall be given by the applicable Division Chief or senior staff member
specifically designated to provide such briefings. Non-routine tasks for a
specific employee occur whenever:
a. He is requested to perform a new procedure, process or test,
even if it is similar to older processes. (Note: Any new procedure is
subject to peer review from both a scientific and safety standpoint to
assure all precautions are in place prior to implementation).
b. There is a change or substitution of ingredient chemicals in a
procedure.
c. There is a substantial change in the amount of chemicals used.
Usually a review of safety practices should be done if the volume/mass of
chemicals used increases by more than 25%.
d. There is a failure of any of the equipment used in the process,
especially safeguards such as fume hoods or clamp apparatus.
e. Employees become ill, suspect chemical exposure, smell
chemicals or otherwise suspect a failure of engineered safeguards.
In other words, if you haven't used it before or haven't done it before,
you must seek prior approval."
There it is in all it's glory. Hope that helps.
Harry
Harry J. Elston, Ph.D., NRCC-CHO
Chemical Hygiene Officer
Illinois Department of Nuclear Safety
Opinions are mine, not my employer's, blah, blah, blah
"Apparent cause of death...hmmmm...that's an easy one"
-Texas coroner, X-Files.
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:52:17 -0500
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From: "DAVID L. PERRAM" <dlperram@MTU.EDU>
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The following is our section on prior approval, if you have comments please
feel free to tell me.
6.0 Prior Approval of Laboratory Activities
6.1 Permit System
A permit system shall be used for laboratory activities which present
specific, foreseeable hazards to the employees. It is the responsibility
of principal investigators, facult laboratory stewards,
and laboratory supervisors to submit a Laboratory Operations Permit
Request Form, see Appendix U, for these activities. These activities
include sole occupancy of laboratory when not in
verbal contact with another knowledgeable employee and
hazardous operations are as outlined below. The permit entitled "Laboratory
Operations Permit" is Included in Appendix T to this
plan and shall be executed prior to the performance
of these activities
6.1.1. Hazardous Operations
6.1.1.1. Greater than 2.0 liters of organic solvent with a flash point of
less than 20oC is used,
6.1.1.2. More than 10 grams of reactive metal is used in one experiment,
6.1.1.3. Reagents know to be category I carcinogens are used (see
Appendix R for a complete list),
6.1.1.4. Materials that are explosive are generated or used in the
experiment,
6.1.1.5. Reaction has the potential to become uncontrolled,
6.1.1.6. Flammable or poisonous gas are used or produced (other than
carrier/detector gasses used on a gas chromatograph or fuel for the
atomic absorbance spectrophotometer),
6.1.1.7. Experiment is carried out at elevated pressures,
6.1.1.8. Project requires the use of pressure vessels (other than
purchased gas cylinders),
6.1.1.9. Radioisotopes are used in the experiment.
6.1.1.10. Unattended operations,
6.1.1.11. Children in laboratories, see Appendix S.
6.1.2 Sole Occupancy
At no time shall any work involving chemicals, mechanical equipment, or
electrical devices other than computers be performed in the laboratory when
the only person in the building with in hearing distance and knowledgeable
is the laboratory person performing the work, at least a second person
who is knowledgeable of the work must be in verbal contact with the
worker . Under unusual conditions, cross-checks, periodic Public Safety
checks, closed circuit television, or other measures may be taken when
permitted.
6.1.3 Hazardous Work
All hazardous operations, determination of hazardous by the Laboratory
Supervisor, Chemical Hygiene Officer, or as defined as a hazardous operation
above, are to be performed during a time when at least two personnel are
present at the laboratory. At no time shall a laboratory person, while
working alone in the laboratory, perform work which is considered hazardous.
6.1.3 Unattended Operations
When laboratory operations are performed which will be unattended by
laboratory personnel (continuous operations, overnight reactions, etc.), the
following procedures will be employed:
6.1.3.1 The permit system shall be utilized.
6.1.3.2 The laboratory supervisor will review work procedures to ensure
the safe completion of the operation.
6.1.3.3 An appropriate sign will be posted at all entrances to the
laboratory.
6.1.3.4 The overhead lights in the laboratory will be left on.
6.1.3.5 Precautions shall be made for the interruption of utility service
during the unattended operation (loss of water pressure, electricity, etc.).
6.1.3.6 The person responsible for the operation will return to the
laboratory at the conclusion of the operation to assist in the
dismantling of the apparatus.
At 07:41 AM 3/4/98 EST, you wrote:
>The Lab Standard asks employers to define in their CHPs
>the circumstances requiring prior approval.
>
>What are the circumstances that your employer requires
>prior approval in your CHP?
>
>I'll compile a summary of your comments and post it back to
>LABSAFETY-L for you to use in "reviewing at least annually
>and updating as needed". ...jak
>
>
>
David L. Perram
Research Scientist II
Civil and Environmental Engineering
Michigan Technological University
1400 Townsend Dr.
Houghton, MI 49931
Phone (906) 487-2713
Fax (906) 487-3292
Secretary Phone (906) 487-2098
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:10:20 -0800
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From: Neal Langerman <chemsaf@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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At 07:41 AM 3/4/98 EST, you wrote:
>The Lab Standard asks employers to define in their CHPs
>the circumstances requiring prior approval.
>
>What are the circumstances that your employer requires
>prior approval in your CHP?
>
>I'll compile a summary of your comments and post it back to
>LABSAFETY-L for you to use in "reviewing at least annually
>and updating as needed". ...jak
>
>
>
Jim:
Work at high pressure (hydrogenation reactions in a Parr Bomb, for example)
Work with any quantity of gas with a TLV less than 10 (arsine, phosphine,
diborane)
Work with known human pathogens
There is more, but this is a start...
Neal
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:45:45 -0500
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From: Anne Skinner <Anne.R.Skinner@WILLIAMS.EDU>
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The only experimental protocols that require prior approval are those
involving human blood (or other potentially infectious material). This may
partly be because as an undergraduate institution the work being done is
less likely to be "exciting" (i.e. dangerous) as research institutions.
We do have separate a radiation safety committee that approves any use of
radioactive material. That is a requirement of our radiation license and
predates the CHP. It is referenced in the CHP.
Anne Skinner
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:23:01 -0500
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From: MR HOWARD W SPENCER <UDSM01A@PRODIGY.COM>
Subject: Prior Approval
this is a great question. At the research lab where I consult it is
left to the PI to determine if he/she needs additional approvals.
Using carcinogens however, requires approval of the CHO. We are just
now revising our CHP so this couldn't come at a better time thanks
Jim!!
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:14:45 EST
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Posting Job Openings here on LABSAFETY-L is a great use
of this forum. I hope others will be encouraged to do as Frank
has done. Thanks. ...jak
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:27:28 EST
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Hi Diane,
Thanks for your interest in LSI. Here's the electronic version of our
Lab Safety Guidelines. Other information will be sent by regular mail
in 3-4 weeks.
Please contact us whenever you have lab safety questions or can share
a description of a lab accident.
LSI is a great source for all Laboratory and Occupational Safety Books
and Media. For example, the "Laboratory Safety Pocket Guide" edited by
Paul Mercier is the best new book (Genium, 211 pages, $14.00 list) is $12.60
from LSI (Save 10%). Clair Wood's "Safety in School Science Labs" is
excellent ($19.95). LSI just published the first volume of "Learning By
Accident", 500 examples of lab accidents. See what happens when you
break the rules ($19.95)! And, LSI members save an additional 10%.
When can we set up a schedule to do 10-12 one-day seminars around
New York State? We're ready! We've go five scheduled for Maine in '98.
Regards, ... Jim Kaufman
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<B> LABORATORY SAFETY GUIDELINES</B>
"Laboratory Safety Guidelines" were written while I worked
for the Dow Chemical Company in an attempt to share with schools,=
colleges, and universities what I was learning about lab safety. =
In 1976, Dow sent copies to 2,000 colleges and university chemis-
try departments and received requests for 250,000 reprints!
In 1986, I assisted Dow with a revision of the guidelines.
Dow sent this version to 10,000 high school chemistry teachers.
Since then, over two million copies have been distributed and
reprinted in various forms.
Most recently, I revised the guidelines in 1997 for Fisher
Scientific to make a "Laboratory Safety Yardstick... How does
your lab safety program measure up?" Five thousand copies
were printed in the first edition.
The Laboratory Safety Workshop offers these suggestions for
improving laboratory safety because we believe that having an
understanding of inherent hazards and learning how to be safe
should be an integral and important part of science education,
work, and life.
Steps Requiring Minimal Expense
1. Have a written health, safety and environmental affairs
(HS&E) policy statement.
2. Organize a departmental HS&E committee of employees,
management, faculty, staff and students which will meet
regularly to discuss HS&E issues.
3. Develop an HS&E orientation for all new employees and
students.
4. Encourage employees and students to care about their health
and safety and that of others.
5. Involve every employee and student in some aspect of the
safety program and give each specific responsibilities.
6. Provide incentives to employees and students for safety
performance.
7. Require all employees to read the appropriate safety
manual. Require students to read the institution's
laboratory safety rules. Have both groups sign a statement
that they have done so, understand the contents, and agree
to follow the procedures and practices. Keep these state-
ments on file in the department office.
8. Conduct periodic, unannounced laboratory inspections to
identify and correct hazardous conditions and unsafe prac-
tices. Involve students and employees in simulated OSHA
inspections.
9. Make learning how to be safe an integral and important part
of science education, your work, and your life.
10. Schedule regular departmental safety meetings for all
students and employees to discuss the results of inspections=
and aspects of laboratory safety.
11. Require every prelab/pre-experiment discussion to include =
consideration of the health and safety aspects.
12. Forbid working alone in any laboratory and working without
prior knowledge of a staff member.
13. Don't allow experiments to run unattended unless they are
failsafe.
14. When conducting experiments with hazards or potential haz-
ards, ask yourself these questions:
What are the hazards?
What are the worst possible things that could go wrong?=
How will I deal with them?
What are the prudent practices, protective facilities
and equipment necessary to minimize the risk of
exposure to the hazards?
15. Require that all accidents (incidents) be reported, evaluat-
ed by the departmental safety committee, and discussed at
departmental safety meetings.
16. Extend the safety program beyond the laboratory to the
automobile and the home.
17. Allow only minimum amounts of flammable liquids in each
laboratory.
18. Forbid smoking, eating and drinking in the laboratory.
19. Do no allow food to be stored in chemical refrigerators.
20. Develop plans and conduct drills for dealing with emergen-
cies such as fire, explosion, poisoning, chemical spill or
vapor release, electric shock, bleeding and personal contam-
ination.
21. Display the phone numbers of the fire department, police
department, and local ambulance either on or immediately
next to every phone.
22. Store acids and bases separately. Store fuels and oxidizers=
separately.
23. Maintain a chemical inventory to avoid purchasing unneces-
sary quantities of chemicals.
24. Use warning signs to designate particular hazards.
25. Require good housekeeping practices in all work areas.
26. Develop specific work practices for individual experiments,
such as those that should be conducted only in a ventilated
hood or involve particularly hazardous chemicals. When
possible most hazardous experiments should be done in a
hood.
Steps Requiring Moderate Expense
27. Allocate a portion of the departmental budget to safety.
28. Require the use of appropriate eye protection at all times-
in a laboratories and areas where chemicals are transported.=
29. Provide adequate supplies of personal protective equipment -=
safety glasses, goggles, face shields, gloves, lab coats,
and bench top shields.
30. Provide fire extinguishers, safety showers, eye wash
foutains, first aid kits, fire blankets and fume hoods in
each laboratory and test or check monthly.
31. Maintain a centrally located departmental safety library:
* "Safety in Academic Chemistry Laboratories"
American Chemical Society, 1155 16th St., N.W.,
Washington, DC 20036
* "Fire Protection Guide on Hazardous Materials"
National Fire Protection Association, Battery-
march Park, Quincy, MA 02269
* "Manual of Safety and Health Hazards in the
School Science Laboratory"
"Safety in the School Science Laboratory"
"School Science Laboratories: A guide to
some Hazardous Substances" Council of State
Science Supervisors, Route 2, Box 637, Lancaster
VA 22503
* "Handbook of Laboratory Safety", 4th edition, CRC
Press, 2000 Corporate Boulevard, N.W., Boca Raton,
FL 33431
* "Prudent Practices in the Laboratory: Handling and
Disposal of Hazardous Chemicals", 2nd Edition, 1995
"Biosafety in the Laboratory", National Academy
Press, 2101 Constitution Avenue, N.W., Washington,
DC 20418
* "Safety in School Science Labs", Clair Wood, 1994,
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Jim - When you schedule NY State, we (Colgate) would like to
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We recently had a safety consultantadvise us to locate our flamable gas
cylinders (Hydrogen and acetylene) outside of the building and have the
gases piped into the instrument locations (GC and AA).
1. Does anyone have any experience with this type of set up or advice to do so?
2. Any comments on the practicality of this advice?
3. Are there any regualtions which suggest this arrangement?
Mark Smith
CHO
Hendrix College
Conway, AR
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Mark
In general, it's not a bad idea to do this if your logistics people can
support the external locations.
Myself, I would look at how great a risk the cylinders inside are, before I
committed to doing this. Your local Fire Marshal can also give you some
insight - for example, if you exceed the exempt quantities of H2, you may
need to place them outside or consider expensive mods.
One item you may wish to do is have restrictive orifices installed in the H2
cylinders. This would minimize the effect of a line failure.
Jim Chang
Safety Engineer
Glaxo Wellcome Inc.
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Subject: Cylinder location
We recently had a safety consultantadvise us to locate our flamable
gas
cylinders (Hydrogen and acetylene) outside of the building and have
the
gases piped into the instrument locations (GC and AA).
1. Does anyone have any experience with this type of set up or
advice to do so?
2. Any comments on the practicality of this advice?
3. Are there any regualtions which suggest this arrangement?
Mark Smith
CHO
Hendrix College
Conway, AR
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:55:16 -0700
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> We recently had a safety consultantadvise us to locate our flamable
> gas
> cylinders (Hydrogen and acetylene) outside of the building and have
> the
> gases piped into the instrument locations (GC and AA).
>
Bah. Of course, this is preferable if "outside" is nearby and the
instruments are going to stay where they are forever. Otherwise, this
introduces a long pipe pressurized with flammable gas coursing
throughout the building, like house gas, except without the solenoid
cutoffs and the obvious outside gas shutoff, and with no odorant.
> 1. Does anyone have any experience with this type of set up or advice
> to do so?
>
We looked at plumbing our propylene cyliders for fusion of XRF samples
in from outside, and ended up stalling long enough on it that we'll do
it on the new building. Our design had many safety features built in.
And it looked like it was going to be a pain.
But, here's the retrofit concept we developed:
Propylene is outside, manifolded to maintain pressure in cold weather.
Always 2 tanks on the manifold, a third spare for swapping when needed.
Pressure gauges from manifolded tanks, and the manifold, read outdoors
and in. Fail-closed electronic valves outside keep the pressure inside
low during power outages. Downstream of that, a fail-closed pressure
valve (actuated by nitrogen) keeps the pressure inside low during idle
times. The N2 is piped to the pressure actuated valve with rubber hose,
to serve as a fusible link for supply cutout during fire inside the
fusion lab. Propylene is piped to a barbed nipple and valved in the
fusion fume hood, which valve must be manually opened for gas to flow
(that part just like house gas).
So there are three valves between the tanks and the user, one automatic
and failsafe (electronic), one semi-automatic and failsafe (pressure)
and one manual and fail-unsafe (manual). This entailed a lot of
plumbing, moving a shed, buying two extra bottles of proplyene, buying a
lot of expensive valving, installing a nitrogen tank in a tiny lab (with
no compressed air of its own), and all because I sorta kinda didn't
think it was a good idea to have a big ol' bottle of propylene in the
basement.
> 2. Any comments on the practicality of this advice?
>
I think it's a very viable concept, with no existing structures to work
around. Our new building will prolly end up with the propylene plumbed
in from outdoors, but the K and L cylinders of H2 and C2H2 inside,
because the fusion lab stays with the XRay eq't, but the other
analytical stuff is pretty mobile (relatively).
> 3. Are there any regualtions which suggest this arrangement?
>
Fire code. UFC Section 80. Dunno about NFPA.
John
Hope this helps.
John DeLaHunt, EH&S Manager
The Colorado College
1125 Glen Avenue
Colorado Springs, CO 80905
(719)389-6678 vox
(719)389-6981 fax
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Dear Colleagues,
I'm meeting some resistance from our Chemistry Department
regarding the use of open flames in distillation procedures. I am
especially concerned when flammable chemicals such as solvents are present
during the distillations. My research indicates that other heat sources
are recommended. These other sources include electric mantles or heating
baths. My question is what do your chem labs use? Also, what techniques
might I apply to stubborn professors who do not want to change their
protocols? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Pete
**********************************************
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Chemical Hygiene Officer
University of Hawaii at Manoa
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Acetylene should never be piped more than a few feet! It is very unstable
and will not likely arrive at the other end of a long pipe as acetylene. It
is highly reactive with metals such as copper, lead and zinc, forming metal
acetylides which are contact explosives.
Tell your consultant to try again.
Mike Hinz
Chemistry Dept.
Washington State University
At 03:22 PM 3/5/98 -0600, you wrote:
>We recently had a safety consultantadvise us to locate our flamable gas
>cylinders (Hydrogen and acetylene) outside of the building and have the
>gases piped into the instrument locations (GC and AA).
>
>1. Does anyone have any experience with this type of set up or advice to do so?
>
>2. Any comments on the practicality of this advice?
>
>3. Are there any regualtions which suggest this arrangement?
>
>
>Mark Smith
>CHO
>Hendrix College
>Conway, AR
>
>
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> I'm meeting some resistance from our Chemistry Department
>regarding the use of open flames in distillation procedures.
Ack. In what century did they learn chemistry?
>I am
>especially concerned when flammable chemicals such as solvents are
present
>during the distillations. My research indicates that other heat
sources
>are recommended. These other sources include electric mantles or
heating
>baths. My question is what do your chem labs use?
We use heating mantles plugged into VariACs for most work, and sometimes
steam mantles for low-temp work.
On occasion we use high-boiling phthallate baths for really high-temp
work, mostly subliming.
Using flame around organics is asking for a fire. There not only has to
be a better way, there is.
Yikes.
> Also, what techniques
>might I apply to stubborn professors who do not want to change their
>protocols? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Ask legal counsel to comment on the concept of tenure as applied to
employees whose actions put the institution at risk of being found
liable to injured parties.
Introduce the concept of the Standard of Due (or Reasonable) Care.
Introduce some very old lab safety books that describe the better ways
to distill solvents.
Hope this helps.
John
John DeLaHunt, EH&S Manager
The Colorado College
1125 Glen Avenue
Colorado Springs, CO 80905
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> Tell your consultant to try again.
>
And, more important, tell us who your consultant was.
John
John DeLaHunt, EH&S Manager
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From: MR HOWARD W SPENCER <UDSM01A@PRODIGY.COM>
Subject: Cylinder location
Hi, I used to work for Exxon research in NJ and piping gases in from
outside was standard practice there. Also if the line went through a
non-lab area such as a hallway or office the line was coaxial (line
within a line) through that space. I am out of Exxon 12 years but I
would suggest you contact V.J. Siminski, he is on the NFPA 45
committee. Vince was my boss then and he is still there. I bet he
could give you more info. I bet Exxon R&E has a web page.
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In the steel industry we typically support large tanks of
iquid argon =
outside for our optical emission spectrometers. I know of no such =
regulation for gases in general. For flammable gases, I would worry =
about problems associated with leak detection, loss of gas during tank =
exchange, and contamination of lines with air during tank replacement. =
We normally maintain such tanks in secure locations within the lab and =
maitain sufficient air exchange rates in the labs so that if a tank =
"lets go" there is sufficient air exchange to prevent the most serious =
kinds of consequences. I would not put my tanks outside. =20
Dean Flinchbaugh
Bethlehem Steel Corp.
Homer Research Labs
Bethlehem PA=20
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From: Mark Smith [SMTP:smithme@ALPHA.HENDRIX.EDU]
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 4:23 PM
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Subject: Cylinder location
We recently had a safety consultantadvise us to locate our flamable gas
cylinders (Hydrogen and acetylene) outside of the building and have the
gases piped into the instrument locations (GC and AA).
1. Does anyone have any experience with this type of set up or advice to =
do so?
2. Any comments on the practicality of this advice?
3. Are there any regualtions which suggest this arrangement?
Mark Smith
CHO
Hendrix College
Conway, AR
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> I'm meeting some resistance from our Chemistry Department
>regarding the use of open flames in distillation procedures. I am
>especially concerned when flammable chemicals such as solvents are present
>during the distillations. My research indicates that other heat sources
>are recommended. These other sources include electric mantles or heating
>baths. My question is what do your chem labs use?
Heating mantles, hot plates, and sand baths are what I use here. I wouldn't
recommend silicon oil baths, as the silicon might catch fire, too.
Also, what techniques
>might I apply to stubborn professors who do not want to change their
>protocols? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
How about recruiting them to help you put out the multiple fires that will
occur in one day? Having faculty do something like that is generally not
found in their teaching contracts and makes them extremely upset. One other
tactic is to ban their protocols, since you are in essence a safety officer.
EWC
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The best thing that can happen to gas taps is they be shut off and removed.
No open flames in laboratories using flammible liquids. Ie organic labs.
The only place open flames are still used at UW is in Micro labs to heat
loops.
At 11:58 AM 05/03/98 -1000, you wrote:
>Dear Colleagues,
> I'm meeting some resistance from our Chemistry Department
>regarding the use of open flames in distillation procedures. I am
>especially concerned when flammable chemicals such as solvents are present
>during the distillations. My research indicates that other heat sources
>are recommended. These other sources include electric mantles or heating
>baths. My question is what do your chem labs use? Also, what techniques
>might I apply to stubborn professors who do not want to change their
>protocols? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Pete
>
>**********************************************
>Peter Batsakis
>Chemical Hygiene Officer
>University of Hawaii at Manoa
>2040 East-West Road, Honolulu, Hawaii 96822
>Phone: (808) 956-3201 FAX: (808) 956-3205
>E-mail: batsakis@hawaii.edu
>**********************************************
>
>
Thanks in advance.
Ian Fraser
Safety Office
University of Waterloo
200 University Ave. W.
Waterloo, ON
Canada, N2L 3G1
Phone (519) 888-4567 Ext 6268
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:51:48 EDT
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From: Jennifer Reader <JENNIFER@EHS.UOGUELPH.CA>
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Subject: cylinder piping
Our art welding shop has the cylinders outside the building and
the gas is piped into the shop. The cylinder are directly
outside the shop - the gas isn't piped very far. This was a
code requirement (to have them outside).
Jennifer Reader, B.S., M.S.P.H.
Hazardous Materials Safety Officer
Environmental Health and Safety
University of Guelph
Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1 Canada
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:54:13 -0000
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We use metal heating manthles from Laboratory Craftsman, 2925 Bartells
Dr.PO Box 148, Beloit, WI., 53511
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:15:08 EDT
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Subject: Re: Heat sources used in distillations.
Further to this discussion, we (the safety office) have been
making it clear to the University community that chairs (and
deans) are responsible for safety in their departments and they
are responsible for setting up programs, managing recalcitrant
employees (including profs), and monitoring results. If things
go wrong, they are in the hot seat, not the safety office.
There is a real possibility that a chair could be personally
charged if there was a critical injury or other problem in
his/her area. And fines to go with it (not paid by the
University). This has gone a long way to waking them up. Now,
this is Ontario Canada; I don't know how the law operates in
your jurisdiction.
Then there is the old saw "would you want your 14-year-old
daughter/son working in this lab?"
Jennifer Reader, B.S., M.S.P.H.
Hazardous Materials Safety Officer
Environmental Health and Safety
University of Guelph
Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1 Canada
519-824-4120 X3190 Fax 519-824-0364
e-Mail jennifer@ehs.uoguelph.ca
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:05:49 -0500
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Peter,
All we use bunsen burners for is Microbiology lab. In our experience, hot plates and sand
baths work much better for distillation and other chem experiments. I guess I was lucky in
that my chem profs wanted the new, higher tech heat sources. I just can not understand
what their rational is that makes them want to use a bunsen burner. Quite frankly, I would
just replace the burners with alternatives and get rid of the burners.
For what it is worth,
Janeen Lapierre, CHO.
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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:25:13 -0500
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From: MR HOWARD W SPENCER <UDSM01A@PRODIGY.COM>
Subject: Re: Cylinder location
Hydrogen with it's low flash point (4%) should not be stored indoors
in 1A cylinders. a catastrophic leak and explosion would release
tremendous energy. I have used critical orifices in the tanks and
high flow restricting valves in the supply lines either at the point
of use or in the line from the manifold. Outside storage of Acetylene
is a little trickier since it will not flow when the tank is cold so
needs to be in a penthouse enclosure or have a hi temp cut off 2 temp
electric belt resistence heater. there are also vendors who make gas
cabinets for use in clean rooms they have complex valve trains, built
in fire suppression and are vented. It the location is permanent they
work very well. there are lots of alternatives that are much safer
than a bare tank in the lab. Install an engineering control of some
sort!!!
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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 22:46:02 -0600
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At 02:05 PM 3/6/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Peter,
>All we use bunsen burners for is Microbiology lab. In our experience, hot
plates and sand baths work much better for distillation and other chem
experiments. I guess I was lucky in that my chem profs wanted the new,
higher tech heat sources. I just can not understand what their rational is
that makes them want to use a bunsen burner. Quite frankly, I would just
replace the burners with alternatives and get rid of the burners.
>
>For what it is worth,
>Janeen Lapierre, CHO.
>
>
As a chemist, I concur with elimination of flames in the labs. I am
currently trying to rationalize burners in micro labs, with the amount of
isopropyl alcohol they aso use. Unfortunately, as a group, they tend to be
sloppy with IPA and forget it is flammable. Clients have recently had
several fires.
How is this handled?
Neal
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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 08:15:13 -0500
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At 10:46 PM 3/7/98 -0600, you wrote:
>
>As a chemist, I concur with elimination of flames in the labs. I am
>currently trying to rationalize burners in micro labs, with the amount of
>isopropyl alcohol they aso use. Unfortunately, as a group, they tend to be
>sloppy with IPA and forget it is flammable. Clients have recently had
>several fires.
>
>How is this handled?
>
>Neal
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>
REPLY:
There are electric heaters (like mini furnaces), designed for loops and
needles in the micro lab.
Although not a flame, they are red hot to kill the organisims. They are not
perfect, but they are better than an open flame.
For fixing organisms to slides, there are slide warmers. They are slower
than using a flame to fix organisms to a slide, so you have to deal with the
people who "can't wait".
Guy Innocente
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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:45:29 -0600
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Dear Colleagues,
This quiry is directed to listserv members who are teaching in the hs and
middle school level:
Is there any mandates from OSHA that you are aware of that limit
the size a class in the science laboratory? If not, do any states or local
districts restrict the size of classes in a science laboratory setting?
Thanks,
Claudia Toback
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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 16:38:10 -0600
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On 03/06/98 09:15:08 you wrote:
>
>Further to this discussion, we (the safety office) have been
>making it clear to the University community that chairs (and
>deans) are responsible for safety in their departments and they
>are responsible for setting up programs, managing recalcitrant
>employees (including profs), and monitoring results. If things
>go wrong, they are in the hot seat, not the safety office.
>
>There is a real possibility that a chair could be personally
>charged if there was a critical injury or other problem in
>his/her area. And fines to go with it (not paid by the
>University). This has gone a long way to waking them up. Now,
>this is Ontario Canada; I don't know how the law operates in
>your jurisdiction.
>
>Then there is the old saw "would you want your 14-year-old
>daughter/son working in this lab?"
>
>
>
>
>Jennifer Reader, B.S., M.S.P.H.
>Hazardous Materials Safety Officer
>Environmental Health and Safety
>University of Guelph
>Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1 Canada
>519-824-4120 X3190 Fax 519-824-0364
>e-Mail jennifer@ehs.uoguelph.ca
>
>
A CALL FOR HELP!
Believe it or not, I am using alcohol lamps with my 6th and 8th graders
because there is only one gas outlet in the classroom. It is located at my
demo desk.
There are three electrical outlets in my room...two at the front (one at the
demo desk) and one in the back. When I need to give a lab which requires
lamps, I improvise!
At least I have running water; there are two science teachers (one in
licensed and the other common branches (K-8) who teach in rooms without
running water. Did I forget to mention that they have physical and Earth
science programs. Try to do hands-on lab activities in this type of
setting.
Lastly, the lab prep room has metal cabinets for chemicals. Recently they
were painted because of the rusting condition. The rust has returned. The
fire inspectors come to inspect, but are only interested in seeing that
every chemical bottle is labeled.
Our district is unique...we share a lab specialist between 2 middle schools.
In many other NYC districts, lab specialists are nonexistent in the middle
school. Many high schools are begging for specialists but cannot find any
that are qualifiied.
I am sure there are more horror stories. I have a few, but not for
publication.
Claudia Toback
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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 23:53:31 EST
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In a message dated 98-03-08 16:47:00 EST, you write:
<< Is there any mandates from OSHA that you are aware of that limit
the size a class in the science laboratory? If not, do any states or local
districts restrict the size of classes in a science laboratory setting? >>
LSI published a report "There's No Safety In Numbers" which summarized
the literature in this area, the actions and recommendations of states, and
the good ideas of science educators to address these issues. LSI found
that Florida was one of the few states with a law specifying class size.
However, the provision for waiver made it too easy to avoid compliance ...jak
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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:11:03 EST
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In a message dated 98-03-08 17:38:42 EST, Claudia Toback wrote:
<< A CALL FOR HELP!
Believe it or not, I am using alcohol lamps with my 6th and 8th graders
because there is only one gas outlet in the classroom. It is located at my
demo desk.
There are three electrical outlets in my room...two at the front (one at the
demo desk) and one in the back. When I need to give a lab which requires
lamps, I improvise!
At least I have running water; there are two science teachers (one in
licensed and the other common branches (K-8) who teach in rooms without
running water. Did I forget to mention that they have physical and Earth
science programs. Try to do hands-on lab activities in this type of
setting.
Lastly, the lab prep room has metal cabinets for chemicals. Recently they
were painted because of the rusting condition. The rust has returned. The
fire inspectors come to inspect, but are only interested in seeing that
every chemical bottle is labeled.
Our district is unique...we share a lab specialist between 2 middle schools.
In many other NYC districts, lab specialists are nonexistent in the middle
school. Many high schools are begging for specialists but cannot find any
that are qualifiied.
I am sure there are more horror stories. I have a few, but not for
publication. >>
JAK: The conditions and circumstances in many public schools make the
safe teaching of science difficult.
Personally, I do not recommend against the use of alcohol burners. I
recommend their safe use by practicing the following five suggestions:
1. Have a metal cap for turning off the burner.
2. Use only those burners which are either physically stable or clamped to
avoid
tipping over and spills.
3. Do not refill burners during class. Replace empty burners with one which
were
previously filled.
4. Add a pinch of salt (sodium chloride) to the alcohol to make the flame more
visible.
5. The teacher should refill the empty burners in a fume hood after class.
Students need to learn the safe use of matches and flammable liquids. Alcohol
lamps
in science classes provide this opportunity.
Metal cabinets are rusting all over the country. One of the best ways to
reduce if not
eliminate this problem is the seal the caps on bottles using vinyl
electricians tape.
Usually it is the hydrochloric acid which it the primary culprit.
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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:43:43 -0500
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From: Jacqueline Sheldon <jsheldon@ACCESS.K12.WV.US>
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Our state (WV) has set guidelines for lab classes to only have 24 students
for liability issues.
Though our average here at schooll is under 24 per class, many of us still
have classes with up to 32 students. We were on a seven period day
previously and block scheduling now, it hasn't made any difference in class
sizes for science, other classes have increased in size.
Jacqueline Sheldon
Keyser High School
Rt 4 Box 110
Keyser, WV 26726
304-788-4230
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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:37:01 PST
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Dear Labsafe: My network will not continue to allow all this incoming
E-mail. Is there a way to receive your announcements, but be removed from
the live mail list. I would be interested in occassionally scanning the
live mail if you archive it. Please tell me if there is a procedure.
michael.l.healy@noaa.gov Hazardous Materials Coordinator e-mail:
mhealy@wasc.noaa.gov phone(206)526-4327 page 916-2733
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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:10:37 -0800
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From: Clay Malinak <cmalinak@CTC.CTC.EDU>
Subject: Re: H2 cylinders
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Another alternative is to eliminate the cylinders altogether, with a
hydrogen generator such as those sold by Supelco.
These run from $4000 to $8000, depending upon your needs, but the
safety benefits may make one worthwhile, especially compared with
construction costs of building outdoor storage facilities.
I used a "low-end" H2 generator from Supelco to run a GC and a GC/MS
at an environmental analysis lab I helped set up in Polson, MT a few
years back. It was quiet and trouble free, and produced plenty of
hydrogen for the two instruments. I found no difference in my
analytical results between bottled H2 and that from the generator.
============================================
Clay J. Malinak
cmalinak@ctc.edu
Spokane Community College (509) 533-7246
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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:22:56 EST
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Dear LabSafe -
I am also interested in reducing the amount of email that I get. I do
appreciate the notification so if it is a topic I'm interested in I could get
the details. Please advise how this can be accomplished.
Darlene Susa-Anderson
Fisher Scientific
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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:45:47 -0600
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The easiest way to do this would be to set your mail to digest. This is
similar to the safety list digests if you're subscribed there and will send
you all of the messages as one message each day. To do this, send a message
to listserv@siu.edu with the following in the body of the message:
set labsafety-l digest
Erik
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Dear LabSafe -
I am also interested in reducing the amount of email that I get. I do
appreciate the notification so if it is a topic I'm interested in I could
get
the details. Please advise how this can be accomplished.
Darlene Susa-Anderson
Fisher Scientific
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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:57:21 EST
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Claudia,
Not knowing what state you are in, I don't know if you have a state program or if you are
under the Federal OSHA. Assuming your science labs would be covered under OSHA, I know of
no federal OSHA regulation that specifically addresses the size of a
class in the science laboratory. OSHA might give you some relief under the General Duty
Clause [Section 5(a)(1) of the OS&H Act requires that "Each employer shall
furnish to each of his employees employment and a place of employment which are free from
recognized hazards that are causing or are likely to cause death or serious physical harm
to his employees."], but again it would depend on who is the employee (you alone or
you and the students) and if your employer is exempt from Federal OSHA coverage.
Another source to look to is your local fire department/Fire Marshall. Class size might
reasonably be limited by means of egress, or zoning maximum occupancy requirements for the
room.
Regards,
Richard Fasano (rfasano@ato.com)
Supervisor, Safety, Health & Environmental Affairs
KoP Technical Center - Elf Atochem North America, Inc.
These opinions are my own based on my training and experience.
"It's a revolution damn it! We're going to have to offend somebody!" - John
Adams, while discussing the massive changes being hacked into the Declaration of
Independence in 1776.
- Rich F.
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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:58:23 -0500
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Are we looking for colleges or public school districts?
>>> Labsafe <Labsafe@AOL.COM> 03/04/98 09:27pm >>>
Hi Diane,
Thanks for your interest in LSI. Here's the electronic version of our
Lab Safety Guidelines. Other information will be sent by regular mail
in 3-4 weeks.
Please contact us whenever you have lab safety questions or can share
a description of a lab accident.
LSI is a great source for all Laboratory and Occupational Safety Books
and Media. For example, the "Laboratory Safety Pocket Guide" edited by
Paul Mercier is the best new book (Genium, 211 pages, $14.00 list) is
$12.60
from LSI (Save 10%). Clair Wood's "Safety in School Science Labs" is
excellent ($19.95). LSI just published the first volume of "Learning By
Accident", 500 examples of lab accidents. See what happens when you
break the rules ($19.95)! And, LSI members save an additional 10%.
When can we set up a schedule to do 10-12 one-day seminars around
New York State? We're ready! We've go five scheduled for Maine in
'98.
Regards, ... Jim Kaufman
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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:17:58 -0800
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We are in the process of developing SOPs for the Chemistry Dept. here at
UNR. In order to facilitate this process, I am seeking actual SOPs
developed for use in academic chemistry research laboratories to use as
examples or models. In addition to example SOPs, any advice on
approaches that have been successful in development of laboratory SOPs
would also be appreciated. Specifically, how were hazards identified
and classified for development of SOPs - How specific are SOPs (specific
chemicals vs. classes of chemicals)? What level of detail in SOPs?
What level of knowledge/competence is assumed with new graduate
students? Thanks in advance for any help.
Ben Owens, CHO
Univ. of Nevada, Reno
Environmental Health and Safety Dept.
Reno, NV 89557
(702) 327-5196 tel.
(702) 784-4553 fax
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:55:50 -0500
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Ben,
If you do a www search for chemical hygiene plans, you will find a
wealth programs that include lab SOP's to look at.
Michigan State, Cornell and The University of Vermont all have
excellent CHP's on their websites.
Kathy Benedict
Parke-Davis
benedik@aa.wl.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Owens [SMTP:bowens@UNR.EDU]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 7:18 PM
> To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU
> Subject: laboratory SOPs
>
> We are in the process of developing SOPs for the Chemistry Dept. here
> at
> UNR. In order to facilitate this process, I am seeking actual SOPs
> developed for use in academic chemistry research laboratories to use
> as
> examples or models. In addition to example SOPs, any advice on
> approaches that have been successful in development of laboratory SOPs
> would also be appreciated. Specifically, how were hazards identified
> and classified for development of SOPs - How specific are SOPs
> (specific
> chemicals vs. classes of chemicals)? What level of detail in SOPs?
> What level of knowledge/competence is assumed with new graduate
> students? Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Ben Owens, CHO
> Univ. of Nevada, Reno
> Environmental Health and Safety Dept.
> Reno, NV 89557
> (702) 327-5196 tel.
> (702) 784-4553 fax
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We have a professor who has written a 19 page document entitled
"Laboratory Instructions for Working with Strains of
Mycobacterium Species in Risk-Level 2 Biohazard Laboratory Room
XXX"
Contents include:
Requirements for Risk Level 2 Lab; definition of Risk Level 2;
Worker responsibilities; Mycobacterium species used in the lab;
General lab practices - do's and don't's; specific procedures;
transportation of live cultures; disinfectants and decon
procedures; routine cleaning and disinfection of lab space and
equipment; spills; biocontainment cabinet; working in the
cabinet; use of the CO2 incubator; references; general
characteristics of Mycobacterium sp.; MSDS.
We have other profs who have written 3 or 4 page documents but
this is the most comprehensive one I've seen at this institution.
We do have SOP's for the Veterinary Hospital but they aren't
really "lab" SOP's.
Jennifer Reader, B.S., M.S.P.H.
Hazardous Materials Safety Officer
Environmental Health and Safety
University of Guelph
Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1 Canada
519-824-4120 X3190 Fax 519-824-0364
e-Mail jennifer@ehs.uoguelph.ca
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:28:56 -0500
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Ben,
Two common SOP problems I encounter are:
1) SOP's are written to describe what or why something is done rather
than written to specifically describe, in detail, precisely how a task
or operation is to be performed.
2) SOP's are written with should type words, rather than shall, will,
must, needs to, etc. Should gives the reader a choice, an option, and
does not actually require the task or operation be done precisely as
written. Shall requires the task be done precisely as written. In a
few, rare, instances use of should can be appropriate. This can be an
important compliance and legal issue.
Douglas B. Walters, Ph.D., CSP, CCHO
Head, Laboratory Health and Safety
National Toxicology Program
National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences
PO Box 12233
Research Triangle Park, NC 27709
919. 541.3355 (voice)
919. 541.3687 (FAX)
walters@niehs.nih.gov
> We are in the process of developing SOPs for the Chemistry Dept. here
> at
> UNR. In order to facilitate this process, I am seeking actual SOPs
> developed for use in academic chemistry research laboratories to use
> as
> examples or models. In addition to example SOPs, any advice on
> approaches that have been successful in development of laboratory SOPs
> would also be appreciated. Specifically, how were hazards identified
> and classified for development of SOPs - How specific are SOPs
> (specific
> chemicals vs. classes of chemicals)? What level of detail in SOPs?
> What level of knowledge/competence is assumed with new graduate
> students? Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Ben Owens, CHO
> Univ. of Nevada, Reno
> Environmental Health and Safety Dept.
> Reno, NV 89557
> (702) 327-5196 tel.
> (702) 784-4553 fax
>
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:04:38 -0500
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Management of flammables in the micro lab has been made easier by setting up stations for
staining that are located on benches with sinks and no gas jets.
Any ethanol or IPA used for cleaning objectives and slides are put in 100ml wash bottles.
I usually fill them with about 25mls. The containers are set out in the staining area.
Students are encouraged to clean slides at the sinks. If they need to clean a microscope
objective, they must have burners off. Very often, the instructors and TA's do the
cleaning, students do not often recognize dirty objectives when they see them.
To address the justification of burners in micro, they are needed to sterilize loops and
flame test tubes. They are an integral part of aseptic technique. I am unaware of a
suitable substitute. What did you have in mind?
With the above precautions and setups, we have had no fires in micro in my 5.5 years here
at UNE. Yes, I am proud of this accomplishment. The med school labs have 50 to 60 students
per lab section in the micro lab, while the undergrad course is limited to 15 students per
section.
For what it's worth, Janeen.
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:21:01 -0500
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I agree with your comments to a point. I have seen the opposite problem
also. "You must weigh the filter three times...". Is four an option?
"You must use a minimum of 5mL...". What if 5mL overloads the filter? I
think we agree, but the options should be placed in the SOP for when the
sample is not a standard sample and the musts should be a minimum or
maximum point not a limitation.
Dr. Henry Boyter, Jr. Ph.D. Chemist
The opinions of Dr. Boyter are provided for informational purposes only and
should not be used as advice. No warranty or expression of professionalism
is implied.
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To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU
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Date: Wednesday, March 11, 1998 9:28 AM
Ben,
Two common SOP problems I encounter are:
1) SOP's are written to describe what or why something is done rather
than written to specifically describe, in detail, precisely how a task
or operation is to be performed.
2) SOP's are written with should type words, rather than shall, will,
must, needs to, etc. Should gives the reader a choice, an option, and
does not actually require the task or operation be done precisely as
written. Shall requires the task be done precisely as written. In a
few, rare, instances use of should can be appropriate. This can be an
important compliance and legal issue.
Douglas B. Walters, Ph.D., CSP, CCHO
Head, Laboratory Health and Safety
National Toxicology Program
National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences
PO Box 12233
Research Triangle Park, NC 27709
919. 541.3355 (voice)
919. 541.3687 (FAX)
walters@niehs.nih.gov
> We are in the process of developing SOPs for the Chemistry Dept. here
> at
> UNR. In order to facilitate this process, I am seeking actual SOPs
> developed for use in academic chemistry research laboratories to use
> as
> examples or models. In addition to example SOPs, any advice on
> approaches that have been successful in development of laboratory SOPs
> would also be appreciated. Specifically, how were hazards identified
> and classified for development of SOPs - How specific are SOPs
> (specific
> chemicals vs. classes of chemicals)? What level of detail in SOPs?
> What level of knowledge/competence is assumed with new graduate
> students? Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Ben Owens, CHO
> Univ. of Nevada, Reno
> Environmental Health and Safety Dept.
> Reno, NV 89557
> (702) 327-5196 tel.
> (702) 784-4553 fax
>
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Since I supervise in academic environment, I would be interested in any
development along these lines.
Douglas S. Cody, MA, CSP
Nassau Community College
Chemistry Department
1 Education Drive
Garden City, NY 11530
516-572-7986
codyd@sunynassau.edu
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:27:05 -0600
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If you are located anywhere near a pharmaceutical plant, you might want to
call the lab manager and see if they have SOPs alrady written for their
instrumentation. I came from the industry and we documented everything
under the sun.
Rich Boosey
----------
> From: Walters.Douglas <walters@NIEHS.NIH.GOV>
> To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU
> Subject: Re: laboratory SOPs
> Date: Wednesday, March 11, 1998 8:28 AM
>
> Ben,
> Two common SOP problems I encounter are:
> 1) SOP's are written to describe what or why something is done rather
> than written to specifically describe, in detail, precisely how a task
> or operation is to be performed.
> 2) SOP's are written with should type words, rather than shall, will,
> must, needs to, etc. Should gives the reader a choice, an option, and
> does not actually require the task or operation be done precisely as
> written. Shall requires the task be done precisely as written. In a
> few, rare, instances use of should can be appropriate. This can be an
> important compliance and legal issue.
>
> Douglas B. Walters, Ph.D., CSP, CCHO
> Head, Laboratory Health and Safety
> National Toxicology Program
> National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences
> PO Box 12233
> Research Triangle Park, NC 27709
> 919. 541.3355 (voice)
> 919. 541.3687 (FAX)
> walters@niehs.nih.gov
>
>
> > We are in the process of developing SOPs for the Chemistry Dept. here
> > at
> > UNR. In order to facilitate this process, I am seeking actual SOPs
> > developed for use in academic chemistry research laboratories to use
> > as
> > examples or models. In addition to example SOPs, any advice on
> > approaches that have been successful in development of laboratory SOPs
> > would also be appreciated. Specifically, how were hazards identified
> > and classified for development of SOPs - How specific are SOPs
> > (specific
> > chemicals vs. classes of chemicals)? What level of detail in SOPs?
> > What level of knowledge/competence is assumed with new graduate
> > students? Thanks in advance for any help.
> >
> > Ben Owens, CHO
> > Univ. of Nevada, Reno
> > Environmental Health and Safety Dept.
> > Reno, NV 89557
> > (702) 327-5196 tel.
> > (702) 784-4553 fax
> >
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:56:20 EST
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In a message dated 98-03-09 10:53:33 EST, you write:
<< Is there a way to receive your announcements, but be removed from
the live mail list. I would be interested in occassionally scanning the
live mail if you archive it. >>
and, another LABSAFETY-L subscriber wrote:
<< I am also interested in reducing the amount of email that I get. I do
appreciate the notification so if it is a topic I'm interested in I could get
the details. Please advise how this can be accomplished. >>
JAK: You might consider receiving the list in DIGEST form. When
you do this you will get all the days messages in a single one. I use
this format for several lists to avaoid being overwhelmed by the volume
of messages.
To do this, send a message to LISTSERV@SIU.EDU
In the body of the message say: SET LABSAFETY-L DIG
See if this helps. .... jak
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:40:20 -0600
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Jim:
Send me info on upcoming CHO Training - I have a client I want to attend...
Thanks
Neal
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:15:07 EST
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In a message dated 98-03-11 04:45:12 EST, Bill Lee wrote:
<< About ten years ago I shared the chemistry stockroom with another
teacher. He allowed his students access to the stockroom and
approximately two hundred grams of K metal was stolen. I have no idea
what eventually happened to the K, but I did worry alot. I am
department chairperson now and no students are allowed in the
stockroom. The stockroom is alarmed and the alarm is connected to the
school police department. Also, extremely dangerous chemicals like
metallic Na, K, and white P are kept in a large gun vault where we also
keep our electronic scales. >>
JAK: Over the same ten years, I have worked as an expert witness
in about three dozen cases. Several have involved students injured
because of improper storage. The injuries have ranged from burns,
blindness and death to the total destruction of a home.
All of this has lead me to conclude that the most important aspect
of chemical storage is security and access. Keep the door/cabinet
locked and allow entry only to authorized persons.
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:41:06 EST
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Hello NACHO Members,
Welcome to the National Association of Chemical Hygiene
Officers. Whether you actually are a chemical hygiene officer,
wish to become one, or are simply interested in laboratory
safety/CHO/CHP issues, NACHO is your professional organization.
And, LABSAFETY-L is the place for you to engage others
with interest in these areas in discussion and conversation.
Today, NACHO exists only here on LABSAFETY-L. More than
300 people have joined. It is a virtual Association based on our
common interest. The first public meeting to discuss NACHO's
future is scheduled for 6-9pm on Wednesday evening, June 24th
in Raleigh-Duhram in conjunction with the LS7EM98 conference.
Everyone is welcome and, you do not need to register for the
conference to attend the NACHO meeting.
However, between now and then (103 days) we need to begin
discussing NACHO's future here in space and develop several
models for the Association's shape, form, and substance.
For example,...... NACHO could.......
1. Remain simply a listserv discussion group... period.
2. Develop into a virtual association in space with meetings,
poster sessions, bylaws, officers, guest speakers, seminars,
standards, publications, officers, dues, etc.
3. Become an association that holds public meetings doing
some or all of the above in the same way that ACS, AIHA,
NSTA, NAOSSM, NABT, NSC, etc conduct their affairs.
4. Or, one of many other good ideas that you might wish to
suggest.
Please comment and criticize 1, 2, and 3 above. What are
the advantages and disadvantages of each? Which is (are)
your preference(s). What other ideas (#4) would you like to
offer? ....jak
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:12:28 +0000
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From: Andrew Szilagyi <Andrew.Szilagyi@EM.DOE.GOV>
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A combination of (1) and (2) seems most appropriate - i.e., more than
a listserve but less than a full blown association. The virtual
association without the baggage (no officers, no dues, NO bureaucracy,
etc.) appears ideal.
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Author: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU at INTERNET
Date: 3/13/98 11:41 PM
Hello NACHO Members,
Welcome to the National Association of Chemical Hygiene
Officers. Whether you actually are a chemical hygiene officer,
wish to become one, or are simply interested in laboratory
safety/CHO/CHP issues, NACHO is your professional organization.
And, LABSAFETY-L is the place for you to engage others
with interest in these areas in discussion and conversation.
Today, NACHO exists only here on LABSAFETY-L. More than
300 people have joined. It is a virtual Association based on our
common interest. The first public meeting to discuss NACHO's
future is scheduled for 6-9pm on Wednesday evening, June 24th
in Raleigh-Duhram in conjunction with the LS7EM98 conference.
Everyone is welcome and, you do not need to register for the
conference to attend the NACHO meeting.
However, between now and then (103 days) we need to begin
discussing NACHO's future here in space and develop several
models for the Association's shape, form, and substance.
For example,...... NACHO could.......
1. Remain simply a listserv discussion group... period.
2. Develop into a virtual association in space with meetings,
poster sessions, bylaws, officers, guest speakers, seminars,
standards, publications, officers, dues, etc.
3. Become an association that holds public meetings doing
some or all of the above in the same way that ACS, AIHA,
NSTA, NAOSSM, NABT, NSC, etc conduct their affairs.
4. Or, one of many other good ideas that you might wish to
suggest.
Please comment and criticize 1, 2, and 3 above. What are
the advantages and disadvantages of each? Which is (are)
your preference(s). What other ideas (#4) would you like to
offer? ....jak
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 09:16:29 EST
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Subject: Chemical Hygiene Plan
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:04:05 CST6CDT
To anyone who would like to respond:
This has probably been requested before, but here goes. I would like
to update our Chemical Hygiene Plan for the Chemistry Dept. (college
size, 2500). Would anyone know of a guideline for academic labs, or
willing to share their plan? It would be appreciated.
George Lorenzo
Wheaton College
501 College Ave.
Wheaton, IL 60187
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 08:37:04 +0000
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NACHO is an association I would like to be actively involved with! Options 1
and 2 are therefore most attractive to me. Finances being what they are,
traveling to national (or even regional) meetings is not something I can afford
on a regular basis (This has kept me from active participation is the ACS.)
However, holding meetings at the LS & EM is great for me since my employer has
authorized sending me again this year! Perhaps option 2 might be a good idea.
The association is bound to grow and organizing ourselves would easier now than
later.
Just my humble opinion.
Cheryl Dawley, CHO, Chemist
AntiVirals, Inc. (AVI BioPharma)
Corvallis, OR 97333
(541)753-3635
cdawley@transport.com
Labsafe wrote:
> 1. Remain simply a listserv discussion group... period.
>
> 2. Develop into a virtual association in space with meetings,
> poster sessions, bylaws, officers, guest speakers, seminars,
> standards, publications, officers, dues, etc.
>
> 3. Become an association that holds public meetings doing
> some or all of the above in the same way that ACS, AIHA,
> NSTA, NAOSSM, NABT, NSC, etc conduct their affairs.
>
> 4. Or, one of many other good ideas that you might wish to
> suggest.
>
> Please comment and criticize 1, 2, and 3 above. What are
> the advantages and disadvantages of each? Which is (are)
> your preference(s). What other ideas (#4) would you like to
> offer? ....jak
>
>
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:20:24 EST
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In a message dated 98-03-14 08:25:50 EST, Andrew Szilagyi wrote:
<< A combination of (1) and (2) seems most appropriate - i.e., more
than a listserve but less than a full blown association. The virtual
association without the baggage (no officers, no dues, NO
bureaucracy, etc.) appears ideal. >>
JAK: The four options listed were:
1. Remain simply a listserv discussion group... period.
2. Develop
into a virtual association in space with meetings,
poster sessions, bylaws, officers, guest speakers, seminars,
standards, publications, officers, dues, etc.
3. Become an association that holds public meetings doing
some or all of the above in the same way that ACS, AIHA,
NSTA, NAOSSM, NABT, NSC, etc conduct their affairs.
4. Or, one of many other good ideas that you might wish to
suggest.
If NACHO were to adopt the suggestion at the top, I'm wondering
how the author and others would envision accomplishing some or
all of the items listed in #2 above. ....jak
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:25:19 -0500
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Our Chemical Hygiene Plan "template" (widely used by academic department
research labs as their own) is on the web.
Start at the Beginning of Purdue's REM (Radiological and Environmental
Management) web site at
http://www.purdue.edu/REM/index.html
or go directly to the first section of the CHP at
http://www.purdue.edu/REM/IH/chp.htm
At 09:16 AM 3/14/98 EST, you wrote:
>Subject: Chemical Hygiene Plan
>Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:04:05 CST6CDT
>
>To anyone who would like to respond:
>
>This has probably been requested before, but here goes. I would like
>to update our Chemical Hygiene Plan for the Chemistry Dept. (college
>size, 2500). Would anyone know of a guideline for academic labs, or
>willing to share their plan? It would be appreciated.
>
>George Lorenzo
>Wheaton College
>501 College Ave.
>Wheaton, IL 60187
>
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:10:53 -0500
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From: MR HOWARD W SPENCER <UDSM01A@PRODIGY.COM>
Subject: Chemical Hygiene Plan
There are several quality CHP's on the net. Most are from colleges.
go to a search engine and look for "Chemicla Hygiene". The one from
a California University of enginnering may suit yoy well.
Howard Spencer
Safety Consultant
Triquerta Safety Services
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present E-Mail Spencerh@absecon.DCS-Exxis.com.
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:03:02 +0000
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Subject: Re[2]: NACHO's Future
I guess I was hoping that the good elements listed in (2) below, e.g.,
standards, publications, meetings (maybe not "in person" but via
alternative methods - videolink, listserve "chat rooms", etc), could
be accomplished without what I consider "baggage", e.g., bylaws,
officers, membership, dues, etc.
In most other typical "associations" I have been involved in in the
past, much of the time and effort appears to be spend on the "baggage"
rather than on meaningful output.
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Author: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU at INTERNET
Date: 3/14/98 12:20 PM
In a message dated 98-03-14 08:25:50 EST, Andrew Szilagyi wrote:
<< A combination of (1) and (2) seems most appropriate - i.e., more
than a listserve but less than a full blown association. The virtual
association without the baggage (no officers, no dues, NO
bureaucracy, etc.) appears ideal. >>
JAK: The four options listed were:
1. Remain simply a listserv discussion group... period.
2. Develop into a virtual association in space with meetings,
poster sessions, bylaws, officers, guest speakers, seminars,
standards, publications, officers, dues, etc.
3. Become an association that holds public meetings doing
some or all of the above in the same way that ACS, AIHA,
NSTA, NAOSSM, NABT, NSC, etc conduct their affairs.
4. Or, one of many other good ideas that you might wish to
suggest.
If NACHO were to adopt the suggestion at the top, I'm wondering
how the author and others would envision accomplishing some or
all of the items listed in #2 above. ....jak
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:41:01 -0500
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Most of us are extremely busy just trying to keep up with our daily work --
I'm sure I am not the only one whose CHO responsibilities are only part of
the job description whether the rest is additional safety areas, technical
support, or teaching. Therefore I vote for 1 for the present.
Anne Skinner
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Dr. Anne Skinner
Chemistry Department, Williams College
47 Lab Campus Drive
Williamstown, MA 01267
anne.r.skinner@williams.edu
Phone: (413) 597-2323
Fax No: (413) 597-4116
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 06:52:00 -0700
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Could you tell me more about this conference? I've never attended. I
also need to know about ABIH certification maintenance points.
Thanks,
Bob Mako, CIH, CSP
Raytheon Systems Co
El Segundo, CA
rrmako@mail.hac.com
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:30:46 -0800
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At 06:52 AM 3/16/98 -0700, you wrote:
> Could you tell me more about this conference? I've never attended. I
> also need to know about ABIH certification maintenance points.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob Mako, CIH, CSP
> Raytheon Systems Co
> El Segundo, CA
> rrmako@mail.hac.com
>
>
Bob:
I attended some of it in SD last year - very focussed on lab safety issues.
Contact anyone (Frank, Dawnn ...) at PRIZMnet@aol.com or 301 840 9316 for
more info. It is worth attending.
Neal
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:11:18 -0500
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I agree with Anne.
In addition, with all the other professional memberships and
certifications-enough's enough.
Doug Walters
Douglas B. Walters, Ph.D., CSP, CCHO
Head, Laboratory Health and Safety
National Toxicology Program
National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences
PO Box 12233
Research Triangle Park, NC 27709
> Most of us are extremely busy just trying to keep up with our daily
> work --
> I'm sure I am not the only one whose CHO responsibilities are only
> part of
> the job description whether the rest is additional safety areas,
> technical
> support, or teaching. Therefore I vote for 1 for the present.
>
> Anne Skinner
>
>
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:13:51 -0500
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I can see NACHO starting as a listserv discussion group and possibly
evolving into more as interest develops and members' time allows.
Ron Slade
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Date: 3/13/98 11:41 PM
Hello NACHO Members,
Welcome to the National Association of Chemical Hygiene
Officers. Whether you actually are a chemical hygiene officer,
wish to become one, or are simply interested in laboratory
safety/CHO/CHP issues, NACHO is your professional organization.
And, LABSAFETY-L is the place for you to engage others
with interest in