========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 20:28:46 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Neal Langerman Subject: Re: Consulting Services Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" While I could spend hours addressing this, I will start by pointing out that I am presenting a Talk at the ACS Meeting in New Orleans on "When to Use a Consultant". It will be in the Div. CHAS. At 02:20 PM 4/30/99 -0700, you wrote: >What might we want to take into consideration prior to offering >consulting services (health and safety)? You are setting up a business - the easiest rule is to have 2 years income put away, because it takes that long to (maybe) become profitable. > >What legal obligations would we have? Aside from some reporting obligations if you discover things like releases to the environment, you are a professional, acting in a professional capacity and therefor are subject to Errors and Omissions liabilities. > >What type and how much insurance coverage? > In addition to general liability and vehicle you need at least $1 million E&O; my policy is costing about $3,500 per year, my bids last year ranged up to $8,000. >What in the way of certification and licensing? > What ever the clients want ... I suggest CSP/CIH if you are doing safety; REA or REI (Registered Environmental Assessor or Registered Environmental Inspector) for enviromental. My Ph.D. has served me well. >Other concerns? You are running a small business - have fun! Visit my web page to check out the Professional Offer which may be of interest. > >Teresa > > ********************************************* NEAL LANGERMAN ADVANCED CHEMICAL SAFETY 8909 C Complex Drive San Diego, CA 92123-1002 619-874-5577 619-874-8239 (FAX) neal@chemical-safety.com NEW and REVISED! Visit our Home Page: http://www.chemical-safety.com The Source for the prevention of injury, illness and environmental insult! ********************************************* ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 21:56:32 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Peter Ashbrook Subject: campus transport of chemicals Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have been reading this thread for several days and am a bit distressed that no one has quoted the regulations. Several universities have obtained written opinions from the DOT that transport of chemicals or hazardous waste does not constitute transportation "in commerce." Therefore, vehicles do not need to be placarded and one doesn't need to worry about whether streets are public or are crossed perpendicularly. State universities have an even additional exemption in that state agencies are exempt from most of the federal motor carrier safety regulations by an exemption in 49 CFR 390. Some states may have more stringent interpretations of transportation "in commerce" or may require vehicles to be placarded for intracampus transport of chemicals on public highways, but the Feds do not regulate this activity. Do I think it is a good idea to ignore the federal regulations because we are exempted? No. I think that there are times when it is appropriate to placard our vehicles even though not required. Even more important, our drivers should always have good documentation about the amount and hazards of the chemicals being transported. Peter Ashbrook, CHMM Assistant Director Chemical Safety Section Division of Environmental Health and Safety University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 14:45:28 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: John Neil Subject: Re: campus transport of chemicals In-Reply-To: <3.0.16.19990501220026.4b57ee36@postoffice.ehs.uiuc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have trouble with people wanting to placard vehicles when not required. It provides false information to emergency responders that the situation is more dangerous than it actually is. There is a big difference as to what you do at an accident with 1000+ kg of flammable liquids than what you would do at an accident with a case (16 kg) of flammable liquids. I do agree that even if not required hazardous materials should be properly segregated, properly packed and labeled, and there should be shipping papers that conform to DOT reg's in the driver's compartment. Another problem I have seen -- reuse of those nice, sturdy, boxes used to ship solvents without removing or changing the labels. One of my reoccurring nightmares in a previous job was of someone trapped in a burning vehicle with a box leaking water that still had the flammable liquid diamond on it. Rescue would be considerable slowed. (Since the agency was exempt from DOT reg's, no one could be brothered to fill out shipping papers either.) John Neil ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 08:12:50 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Stoll, Ilse (Ilse)" Subject: Re: AIHA Conference, Toronto MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I will be there. Ilse Stoll TRB198BG Environmental Laboratory Lucent Technologies 555 Union Blvd. Allentown, PA 18103 610.712.5505 voice 610.712.4400 fax > ---------- > From: Don Abramowitz[SMTP:dabramo1@SWARTHMORE.EDU] > Reply To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List > Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 7:26 PM > To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU > Subject: AIHA Conference, Toronto > > Are any other NACHOs going to the American Industrial Hygiene Assocation > Conference/Exposition in Toronto in June? If so, I'd like to figure out a > time for us to meet up, for lunch or something, to say hello in person. > > Please advise. > > Don > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~~ > Donald Abramowitz, CIH > Occupational and Environmental Safety Officer > > Bryn Mawr College | Swarthmore College > 101 N. Merion Avenue | 500 College Avenue > Bryn Mawr, PA 19010 | Swarthmore PA 19081 > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 08:43:20 -0400 Reply-To: fullert@bc.edu Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Thomas Fuller Subject: "POLY-DOLLY" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII --- Begin Forwarded Message --- Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:18:29 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Thomas Fuller Subject: "POLY-DOLLY" Sender: fullert@bc.edu To: LABSAFETY-l@SIU.EDU Cc: ARTHUR ANDERSEN 1 Reply-To: fullert@bc.eduANDERSAB Message-ID: Does anyone have any experience with the use of a "POLY-DOLLY" mobile dispensing station? This device is available from Lab Safety Supply. My concern is static charge build-up while dispensing acetone from a 55-Gallon drum into a 1 Gallon glass or other nonconductive container. Is it necessary to bond the nonconductive container? Thank you. ---------------------- Thomas Fuller fullert@bc.edu Boston College --- End Forwarded Message --- ---------------------- Thomas Fuller fullert@bc.edu Boston College ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 08:56:35 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Davis, Scott" Subject: Re: AIHA Conference, Toronto MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I'm going. Lunch would be great. Scott Davis, CIH University Industrial Hygienist UNC Charlotte 704-547-4279 > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Abramowitz [SMTP:dabramo1@SWARTHMORE.EDU] > Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 7:27 PM > To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU > Subject: AIHA Conference, Toronto > > Are any other NACHOs going to the American Industrial Hygiene Assocation > Conference/Exposition in Toronto in June? If so, I'd like to figure out a > time for us to meet up, for lunch or something, to say hello in person. > > Please advise. > > Don > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~~ > Donald Abramowitz, CIH > Occupational and Environmental Safety Officer > > Bryn Mawr College | Swarthmore College > 101 N. Merion Avenue | 500 College Avenue > Bryn Mawr, PA 19010 | Swarthmore PA 19081 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 09:42:32 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Daniel Hurley Subject: Re: AIHA Conference, Toronto MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'll be there, lets get together for lunch Don Abramowitz wrote: > Are any other NACHOs going to the American Industrial Hygiene Assocation > Conference/Exposition in Toronto in June? If so, I'd like to figure out a > time for us to meet up, for lunch or something, to say hello in person. > > Please advise. > > Don > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Donald Abramowitz, CIH > Occupational and Environmental Safety Officer > > Bryn Mawr College | Swarthmore College > 101 N. Merion Avenue | 500 College Avenue > Bryn Mawr, PA 19010 | Swarthmore PA 19081 -- Dan Hurley, CIH Sr. Industrial Hygienist Wake Forest University School of Medicine 336-777-3078 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:10:10 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Naomi Kelly Subject: Re: AIHA Conference, Toronto In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I will be attending the AIHA Conference in Toronto. At 06:26 PM 4/30/99 -0500, you wrote: >Are any other NACHOs going to the American Industrial Hygiene Assocation >Conference/Exposition in Toronto in June? If so, I'd like to figure out a >time for us to meet up, for lunch or something, to say hello in person. > >Please advise. > > Don > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Donald Abramowitz, CIH > Occupational and Environmental Safety Officer > > Bryn Mawr College | Swarthmore College > 101 N. Merion Avenue | 500 College Avenue > Bryn Mawr, PA 19010 | Swarthmore PA 19081 Naomi Kelly Environmental Health and Safety Officer Clemson University 261 P&AS Building Clemson, SC 29634-5740 (864)656-7554 Fax (864)656-7630 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 07:20:29 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Stephen Hemperly Subject: AICHE-Toronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I will also be attending the American Industrial Hygiene Conference in Toronto. Regards, Stephen Stephen Hemperly, MS, CIH, CSP Well-Being (Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Ergonomics) - Almaden Lotus Notes address: Stephen Hemperly/Almaden/IBM @ IBMUS Internet address: shemperly@almaden.ibm.com T/L 457-1375, (408) 927-1375 Fax: (408) 927-2100 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:28:02 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Brian Olson Subject: campus transport of chemicals MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Peter Ashbrook Subject: campus transport of chemicals I have been reading this thread for several days and am a bit distressed that no one has quoted the regulations. ---SNIP------SNIP------SNIP------SNIP------SNIP------SNIP------SNIP------SNI P------SNIP--- I too have been reading this for awhile with a bit of sadness. You can't interpret and apply hearsay. We have a campus atmosphere here at our multi-site facility, and I have heard of the "perpendicular" rule. I contact our state DOT, and the Federal DOT offices for clarification. They insist that this 'letter' is OUT OF DATE and I have been told to follow the regulations. So, folks, forget what you 'hear'. Read the regulations for yourself and determine if you meet the scope of the regulations. If you do, fine. Use them. Don't wait for an accident to find that you were ignorant and didn't know that regulations did exist for your situation. As safety professional, it is your job to find out what the regulations are! To help you along, here are the regulations you need to read: 49CFR172.204(a) 49CFR172.204(b)(ii) 49CFR173.6 49CFR173.6(a)(1) Read them online by searching for them here: http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/cfr-table-search.html p.s. the rule does not cover Radiation...I have not found one that does yet. If you know of one, I would like to talk to you! Thanks, Brian Olson Manager, EH&S Promega Corp. (biotech co.) Madison, WI bolson@promega.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:31:53 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Lucy M. Zotter" Subject: LS&EM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Fellow NACHO's IS anyone attending the LS&EM conference in Phila. last week of July? If you are I'd like to meet you there Lucy M. Zotter ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:42:52 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Reeder, Deborah" Subject: Re: LS&EM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I am planning to attend the conference only on Tuesday and Wednesday. Hope to meet some of you too! Debbie Reeder Lab Manager Chemistry Department Anne Arundel Community College Arnold, Maryland 21012 410-541-2224 -----Original Message----- From: Lucy M. Zotter [SMTP:lmz0@MS1.ALLENCOL.EDU] Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 11:32 AM To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU Subject: LS&EM Hi Fellow NACHO's IS anyone attending the LS&EM conference in Phila. last week of July? If you are I'd like to meet you there Lucy M. Zotter ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:11:33 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Daniel Hurley Subject: Re: AICHE-Toronto MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I will also be attending Stephen Hemperly wrote: > I will also be attending the American Industrial Hygiene Conference in > Toronto. > > Regards, > > Stephen > Stephen Hemperly, MS, CIH, CSP > Well-Being (Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Ergonomics) - Almaden > Lotus Notes address: Stephen Hemperly/Almaden/IBM @ IBMUS > Internet address: shemperly@almaden.ibm.com > T/L 457-1375, (408) 927-1375 Fax: (408) 927-2100 -- Dan Hurley, CIH Sr. Industrial Hygienist Wake Forest University School of Medicine 336-777-3078 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:34:40 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Bondanza, Donna" Subject: Re: LS&EM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I will be attending LS&EM this year in Philly. Hope to meet you and many other NACHO's! Donna Bondanza Safety Coordinator/ Associate - Dispersion Technology NanoSystems(tm) -----Original Message----- From: Lucy M. Zotter [mailto:lmz0@MS1.ALLENCOL.EDU] Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 11:32 AM To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU Subject: LS&EM Hi Fellow NACHO's IS anyone attending the LS&EM conference in Phila. last week of July? If you are I'd like to meet you there Lucy M. Zotter ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:08:00 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Neal Langerman Subject: Re: LS&EM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'll be there - running two workshops and chairing a session on Laboratory Hazards and Risks. Neal At 11:31 AM 5/3/99 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Fellow NACHO's >IS anyone attending the LS&EM conference in Phila. last week of July? >If you are I'd like to meet you there >Lucy M. Zotter > > ************************************************************* NEAL LANGERMAN chemsaf@ix.netcom.com ADVANCED CHEMICAL SAFETY or neal@chemical-safety.com 8909 Complex Drive San Diego CA 92123-1418 619 874 5577 (phone) 619 874 8239 (FAX) 619 990 4908 (cellular) visit our homepage: http://www.chemical-safety.com ************************************************************* ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 13:57:42 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Nick Pinizzotto Subject: two prong / three prong electrical cords MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks, We just completed a CAP(College of American Pathologists) inspection in our clinical labs and were cited for having two prong electrical cords (found only on radios and other small ticket items). CAP states in THEIR standards that all "instruments" must have a three prong grounded type electrical cord. It think it'd be a stretch trying to call a radio an instrument. My guess is that the inspector is applying a rather strict interpretation of the CAP standard but was curious to get some feedback from a well grounded group, no pun intended. I was under the impression that a two prong polarity type plug provides as good a protection as a three prong grounded plug. The inspector argued from the standpoint that the radio could fall into a sink of water or someone could touch it with a wet hand and get electrocuted. I thought that a three pronged adapter wouldn't provide water electrocution protection anyway unless it were plugged into a GFCI receptacle. For that matter, the 2 prong in a GFCI would prevent electrocution too. Right? We could get our maintenance group to retrofit the radios etc. but most of the items are plastic and wouldn't have anything metal to run the ground wire to anyway! The last alternative is to throw away the radios etc. but that could be more dangerous than electrocution. Did you ever see a mad lab person?????!!!!! Some feedback please........... Nick Pinizzotto Environmental Health Officer Dept. Environmental Health & Safety Thomas Jefferson University nick.pinizzotto@mail.tju.edu 215-503-5853 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 14:02:09 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Barbara J. Weaver" Subject: Re: AICHE-Toronto MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I will also be attending Barb J. Weaver, CIH bjweaver@lancasterlabs.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Hurley [SMTP:dhurley@WFUBMC.EDU] > Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 11:12 AM > To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU > Subject: Re: AICHE-Toronto > > I will also be attending > > Stephen Hemperly wrote: > > > I will also be attending the American Industrial Hygiene Conference in > > Toronto. > > > > Regards, > > > > Stephen > > Stephen Hemperly, MS, CIH, CSP > > Well-Being (Safety, Industrial Hygiene, Ergonomics) - Almaden > > Lotus Notes address: Stephen Hemperly/Almaden/IBM @ IBMUS > > Internet address: shemperly@almaden.ibm.com > > T/L 457-1375, (408) 927-1375 Fax: (408) 927-2100 > > -- > Dan Hurley, CIH > Sr. Industrial Hygienist > Wake Forest University School of Medicine > 336-777-3078 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:14:24 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Ellen Anson Subject: Re: AIHA Conference, Toronto In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I will be attending AIHCE in Toronto. Ellen D. Anson PhD., CIH Industrial Hygienist Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory P.O. Box 808 L-386 Livermore, CA 94551-9900 (925)422-1079 eanson@llnl.gov ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 14:26:37 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Bob Burns Subject: Re: two prong / three prong electrical cords MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My understanding is the same as yours. However, I haven't read the pertinent regulations. I'd consult your insurance carrier. it does seem that if 2 prong polarity plug is safe on my electric drill at home, and it has a UL tag on it, it should be good in the lab as well. I suspect your group is using archaic regulations. Bob "SEMPER ADVENTURUS!!!" Robert L. Burns R&D Group Leader Specialty Chemicals Division RUETGERS Organics Corporation 201 Struble Road State College, PA 16801 phone 814-231-9214 fax 815 333 4805 email rburns@bigfoot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Pinizzotto To: Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 13:57 Subject: two prong / three prong electrical cords > Hi folks, > > We just completed a CAP(College of American Pathologists) inspection in our > clinical labs and were cited for having two prong electrical cords (found only > on radios and other small ticket items). > CAP states in THEIR standards that all "instruments" must have a three prong > grounded type electrical cord. > > It think it'd be a stretch trying to call a radio an instrument. My guess is > that the inspector is applying a rather strict interpretation of the CAP > standard but was curious to get some feedback from a well grounded group, no > pun intended. > > I was under the impression that a two prong polarity type plug provides as > good a protection as a three prong grounded plug. The inspector argued from > the standpoint that the radio could fall into a sink of water or someone could > touch it with a wet hand and get electrocuted. I thought that a three pronged > adapter wouldn't provide water electrocution protection anyway unless it were > plugged into a GFCI receptacle. For that matter, the 2 prong in a GFCI would > prevent electrocution too. Right? > > We could get our maintenance group to retrofit the radios etc. but most of the > items are plastic and wouldn't have anything metal to run the ground wire to > anyway! > > The last alternative is to throw away the radios etc. but that could be more > dangerous than electrocution. Did you ever see a mad lab person?????!!!!! > > Some feedback please........... > > Nick Pinizzotto > Environmental Health Officer > Dept. Environmental Health & Safety > Thomas Jefferson University > nick.pinizzotto@mail.tju.edu > 215-503-5853 > > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 14:46:54 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Janeen LaPierre Subject: Re: two prong / three prong electrical cords Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Nick wrote: I was under the impression that a two prong polarity type plug provides as good a protection as a three prong grounded plug. The inspector argued from the standpoint that the radio could fall into a sink of water or someone could touch it with a wet hand and get electrocuted. I thought that a three pronged adapter wouldn't provide water electrocution protection anyway unless it were plugged into a GFCI receptacle. For that matter, the 2 prong in a GFCI would prevent electrocution too. Right? Reply: YES. All outlets near sinks should be GFCI protected if not at the outlet than at the breaker box. We have had our in house electricians replace all our in lab outlets with the GFCI protection. Its added security for things like "water" baths and "water" jacked incubators. Nick wrote: We could get our maintenance group to retrofit the radios etc. but most of the items are plastic and wouldn't have anything metal to run the ground wire to anyway! Reply: We have had this option done on some older equipment that did not have the three prong plug but it was equipment, ie. not radios. Nick wrote: The last alternative is to throw away the radios etc. but that could be more dangerous than electrocution. Did you ever see a mad lab person?????!!!!! Reply: You bet! But, we have a pretty tough line on the three prong thing here at UNE. We encourage departments to take care of their folk and purchase the appropriate items for the lab areas. We try to discourage folks from bringing in stuff from home that is not meant for "industrial" use. Good luck with satisfying everyone on this issue. Janeen :):):):):):):):):):):):) Janeen Lapierre, CHO College of Osteopathic Medicine University of New England 11 Hills Beach Road Biddeford, ME 04005 E-Mail: JLaPierre@MAILBOX.UNE.EDU Phone: (207) 283-0170 ext 2446 Opinions are mine and not those of UNE. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:01:46 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Julie O'Brien Subject: Laboratory ventillation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am trying to find out if there are any regulations regarding the number of air changes per hour for a chemical storage building. Our chemical storage is in a building which is detached from the laboratories. It has air conditioning/heating and a separate exhaust fan that only comes on when the lights are turned on. We are considering removing the exhaust fan if the AC unit can handle the necessary air changes per hour. I couldn't find anything specific in Prudent Practices, NFPA 45, or the Lab Standard. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Julie O'Brien Chemist Archimica (Florida), Inc. PO Box 1466 Gainesville, FL 32602 352-376-8246 ext. 232 Fax 352-373-7503 afn35210@afn.org Education/Exhibits Committee Volunteer EXPO The Children's Museum of Gainesville PO Box 5951 Gainesville, FL 32627 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 14:43:36 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Don Abramowitz Subject: Re: two prong / three prong electrical cords In-Reply-To: <00e201be9592$7ba494e0$5b002c0a@bburns> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm with you on this too. Note that the electric drill is "double insulated" with respect to the housing to prevent leakage current/defects from energizing the housing (usually plastic these days) or the chuck. That said, I fail to see the hazard presented by a radio in its plastic housing, nor a meaningful way of grounding it. Certain appliances, such as toasters, space heaters, irons, coffee makers, and other things with heating elements are almost never grounded, in consumer versions, but usually carry UL approvals. At the risk of hearsay, I once heard an "official" reason these are not grounded (it was safety-related), but I regret that I cannot recall the specifics. Don it does seem >that if 2 prong polarity plug is safe on my electric drill at home, and it >has a UL tag on it, it should be good in the lab as well. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:23:47 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Daniel Hurley Subject: Re: Laboratory ventillation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check NFPA 30 Julie O'Brien wrote: > I am trying to find out if there are any regulations regarding the number of > air changes per hour for a chemical storage building. Our chemical storage > is in a building which is detached from the laboratories. It has air > conditioning/heating and a separate exhaust fan that only comes on when the > lights are turned on. We are considering removing the exhaust fan if the AC > unit can handle the necessary air changes per hour. I couldn't find anything > specific in Prudent Practices, NFPA 45, or the Lab Standard. Any help with > this would be greatly appreciated. > > Julie O'Brien > Chemist > Archimica (Florida), Inc. > PO Box 1466 > Gainesville, FL 32602 > 352-376-8246 ext. 232 > Fax 352-373-7503 > afn35210@afn.org > > Education/Exhibits Committee Volunteer > EXPO The Children's Museum of Gainesville > PO Box 5951 > Gainesville, FL 32627 -- Dan Hurley, CIH Sr. Industrial Hygienist Wake Forest University School of Medicine 336-777-3078 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 13:59:43 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Barry Rutledge Subject: Safety Specialist Wanted Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Safety Specialist The Scripps Research Institute (TSRI) is seeking a Safety Specialist to assist in implementation of comprehensive EH&S program. Will help develop industrial hygiene, biosafety, and ergonomics, programs. Will develop & conduct training and will assist laboratories with all aspects of safety including: consultations, air/noise monitoring, general safety, and emergency response programs. Qualified candidates must have 1-2 years professional experience and a Bachelors degree in the physical sciences or related field or a Masters degree in related field. Requires excellent communication skills and ability to work well with others. Will be required to obtain valid CA driver's license. Must be able to wear SCBA. Please send your resume with salary history to: TSRI, 10550 N. Torrey Pines Rd, TPC-11, La Jolla, CA 92037; FAX: (619) 784-8071; www.scripps.edu. Ref #ASUT. We value and support diversity in our workforce/AA/EOE. Kenneth "Barry" Rutledge Senior Safety Specialist The Scripps Research Inst. La Jolla, CA ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:52:39 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Bob Byington Organization: The University of Memphis Subject: Protectair Gas Monitors MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are researching the purchase of a Protectair Gas Monitor. Does anybody out there have feedback about this or any other monitors that you are presently using? Please respond to the list with your comments. Thanks in advance, Bob -- Bob Byington Laboratory Safety Specialist,WebMaster Environmental Health and Safety 210B Old Brister Library The University of Memphis Memphis, TN 38152-6191 (901) 678-4672 fax (901) 678-4673 rbyingtn@memphis.edu homepage: http://www.people.memphis.edu/~ehas personal: http://www.people.memphis.edu/~rbyingtn ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 17:16:15 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Sharon Reed Subject: Re: two prong / three prong electrical cords Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I think the way to go would be to have all the circuits in your lab on GFCIs and then make sure they are tested on a very regular basis. They do break. A third prong is your best insurance against ground faults, but are not practical on a radio or other "small ticket items". A 2 prong plug is safe on double insulated, UL rated equipment. And no electrical equipment (well.... very little, only those rated as submersible!) would be safe if it fell in into a vat of water! Perhaps you could mount the radios so there was no chance of falling into a sink? ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 10:12:43 +1200 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: John Downey Subject: Re: Protectair Gas Monitors MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I am not familiar with this brand. What are you trying to measure? We have found the Neotronics units (UK) very good. Get back to me directly. John Downey Dangerous Goods Inspector Waitakere City Council Phone +64 9 836 8036 Fax +64 9 836 8001 Email John.Downey@waitakere.govt.nz > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Byington [SMTP:rbyingtn@MEMPHIS.EDU] > Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 1999 08:53 > To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU > Subject: Protectair Gas Monitors > > We are researching the purchase of a Protectair Gas > Monitor. Does anybody out there have feedback about this or > any other monitors that you are presently using? Please > respond to the list with your comments. > Thanks in advance, > > Bob > -- > > > Bob Byington > Laboratory Safety Specialist,WebMaster > Environmental Health and Safety > 210B Old Brister Library > The University of Memphis > Memphis, TN 38152-6191 > (901) 678-4672 fax (901) 678-4673 > rbyingtn@memphis.edu > homepage: http://www.people.memphis.edu/~ehas > personal: http://www.people.memphis.edu/~rbyingtn ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:07:56 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "John M. Neil" Subject: 2/3 prong plug Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm not sure one can say which is better since they have different functions. A three prong plug provides an extra path to ground which hopefully is a path of less resistance than your body. A two prong plug, if correctly installed, minimizes the portion of the circuit that is hot -- the switch is the first element in the circuit so that when it is switched off, there is no current beyond the switch. With the older two prong plugs, half the time the switch was the last element in the circuit and the entire circuit was "hot" except portion from the switch to the plug. To prevent a shock from grounding in water, one needs a GIF plug which kills the circuit when it senses a high current flow; the best I think one could expect of a three prong plug is reduction of some of the current going through your body while a two prong plug might prevent a circuit from being established as long as the switch didn't get wet. John Neil ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:52:13 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Labsafe@AOL.COM Subject: Re: LS&EM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 99-05-03 11:50:19 EDT, you write: << Hi Fellow NACHO's IS anyone attending the LS&EM conference in Phila. last week of July? If you are I'd like to meet you there Lucy M. Zotter >> Hi NACHO's... We are planning a NACHO meeting for the LS&EM conference. The likely time will be Wednesday Evening, July 28th. Stay tuned for confirmation and details. ... jim ***************************************************** James A. Kaufman, Director The Laboratory Safety Workshop Safety in Science Education 192 Worcester Road, Natick, MA 01760 508-647-1900 Fax: 508-647-0062 labsafe@aol.com http://www.labsafety.org/ LSW is a national non-profit educational organization dedicated to making health and safety an integral and important part of science education. Free copies of our Laboratory Safety Guidelines, seminar schedule, Publications List, AV-Lending Library List, and membership information are available on request. The LABSAFETY-L discussion list is a public service of LSW. ****************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:52:15 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Labsafe@AOL.COM Subject: Re: two prong / three prong electrical cords MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 99-05-03 14:28:40 EDT, you write: << if 2 prong polarity plug is safe on my electric drill at home >> IF..... If you are holding the drill by the metal chuck when it short circuits, you are in potentially (pun intended) big trouble. ... Jim ***************************************************** James A. Kaufman, Director The Laboratory Safety Workshop Safety in Science Education 192 Worcester Road, Natick, MA 01760 508-647-1900 Fax: 508-647-0062 Cell: 508-574-6264 Email: labsafe@aol.com Web Site: http://www.labsafety.org/ ****************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:52:16 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Labsafe@AOL.COM Subject: Re: two prong / three prong electrical cords MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 99-05-03 17:19:36 EDT, you write: << A third prong is your best insurance against ground faults >> Actually, a ground fault interupter might be preferred. Here's the sequence of protection.... Make sure the receptacle is properly wired.... then Two prong unpolarized Two prong polarized Three prong Ground Fault interupter Then, check to be sure the appliance is properly wired and the case is cold. ... Jim ***************************************************** James A. Kaufman, Director The Laboratory Safety Workshop Safety in Science Education 192 Worcester Road, Natick, MA 01760 508-647-1900 Fax: 508-647-0062 labsafe@aol.com http://www.labsafety.org/ LSW is a national non-profit educational organization dedicated to making health and safety an integral and important part of science education. Free copies of our Laboratory Safety Guidelines, seminar schedule, Publications List, AV-Lending Library List, and membership information are available on request. The LABSAFETY-L discussion list is a public service of LSW. ****************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 06:39:05 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Labsafe@AOL.COM Subject: Re: 2/3 prong plug and GFI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 99-05-03 19:04:26 EDT, you write: << the switch is the first element in the circuit so that when it is switched off, there is no current beyond the switch. >> When dealing with electrical appliances, a single pole switch can only stop the current if the hot lead is on the switched side. Three circumstances can prevent this from happening. All are not uncommon in my experience. The appliance is miswired, the receptacle is miswired. A two-prong unpolarized plug is in backwards. And, most people don't understand why the latter is a problem. << To prevent a shock from grounding in water, one needs a GIF plug which kills the circuit when it senses a high current flow; >> No. Actually it kills the circuit when it senses a LOW current flow of 1-2 milliamps. The Lab Safety Workshop offers training programs that address this and other lab safety issues. Our next one-day seminars are in Buffalo, NY (May 12th) and Jamestown, NY (May 14th). Please check our web site for other dates. .... Jim ***************************************************** James A. Kaufman, Director The Laboratory Safety Workshop Safety in Science Education 192 Worcester Road, Natick, MA 01760 508-647-1900 Fax: 508-647-0062 Cell: 508-574-6264 Email: labsafe@aol.com Web Site: http://www.labsafety.org/ ****************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 07:50:53 +0000 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Barb Moore Subject: Re: Laboratory ventillation In-Reply-To: <199905031901.PAA03403@freenet4.afn.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We have been through this experience about a year ago. BWC (Bureau of Workmen's Comp) came in and did and walk through. They cited OSHA1910.106 standard (d)(4)(iv) Ventilation. Every inside storage room shall be provided with either a gravity or a mechanical exhaust ventilation system. Such system shall be designed to provide for a complete change of air within the room at least six times per hour. If a mechanical exhaust system is used, it shall be controlled by a switch located outside of the door. The ventilating equipment and any lighting fixtures shall be operated by the same switch. A pilot light shall be installed adjacent to the switch if Class I flammable liquids are dispensed within the room. Where gravity ventilation is provided, the fresh air intake, as well as the exhuast outlet from the room, shall be on the exterior of the building in which the room is located. Hope this is helpful. ---------- Barbara Moore 330-263-2379 Administrative Manager FAX 330-263-2378 Biology Dept bmoore@acs.wooster.edu College of Wooster http://ACS.wooster.edu/biology Wooster, OH 44691 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 06:58:17 -0700 Reply-To: Marc Neuffer Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Marc Neuffer Organization: SafetyInfo.Com Subject: Small Business Ergo Standard Report MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The long awaited report on OSHA's Ergo Standard has been released. The full report is available at: http://www.safetyinfo.com/news/safety-news.htm Our news report as follows: The Small Business representatives on the Ergo Standard Review Panel have raised serious questions about OSHA's ability to provide accurate cost data for the proposed Ergonomic Standard. The government representative have stated that " OSHA's preliminary cost estimates may have underestimated the costs, perhaps materially." Panel members also stated that OSHA underestimated the number of employees in similar jobs. Some pointed to large numbers of workers with identical jobs in their own facilities, and some stated that everyone does every job in a small facility. Other concerns were: -that the proposed rule would significantly increase the incentives not to hire (or to dismiss) individuals that were members of groups that they perceive to be more likely to incur MSDs -that the medical removal provisions or the information provisions of the draft rule might encourage more reporting of MSDs, leading to an increase in workers' compensation costs. -that OSHA had underestimated the need for consultants for all elements of the program. -that many small businesses would not have the capability to make either the initial determination about whether they need an ergonomics program or to implement the ergonomics program itself in a way that would satisfy OSHA compliance personnel. -that the two criteria for determining the work-relatedness of MSDs in addition to a recordable MSD would be unworkable or ignored. -that, as currently drafted, OSHA's draft language could be interpreted as providing injured employees on MRP with more take-home pay than they would have had before the injury. The full report addresses all sections of the draft standard. Regards Marc Neuffer Safety Info.Com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 08:30:26 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Thomas J. Shelley" Subject: Re: glove selection In-Reply-To: <82ACF9C810A5D211B13100A0C9EBE41EB5416E@email.uncc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="============_-1286301468==_============" --============_-1286301468==_============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Zack Mansdorf, Ph.D., CIH, CSP, put together the "Quick Selection Guide to >Chemical Protective Clothing" published by Van Nostrand Reinhold. Very >useful...covers both suits and gloves. Scott--Greetings! I like the Mansdorf book, too, and I use it to confirm glove selection that I have been doing. I have attached a copy of the glove selection document on which I am working. How are things going? Run out of stuff to do yet? I hope all is well with you and Trena. Tom --============_-1286301468==_============ Content-Id: Content-Type: application/mac-binhex40; name="Glove_Selection_1=99.doc" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Glove_Selection_1=99.doc" ; modification-date="Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:20:14 -0400" Part 1.2 Type: Macintosh BinHex Archive (application/mac-binhex40) --============_-1286301468==_============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ********************************************************* Tom Shelley, Chemical Hygiene Officer, Cornell University Department of Environmental Health and Safety, 125 Humphreys Service Building, Ithaca, NY 14853. (607) 255-4288 tjs1@cornell.edu --============_-1286301468==_============-- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 09:16:13 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Thomas J. Shelley" Subject: Fwd: Re: glove selection Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Oooppps... Another newbie sending a private note to the list. ;-) Sorry abou that. Tom >Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 08:30:26 -0400 >To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List >From: "Thomas J. Shelley" >Subject: Re: glove selection >Cc: >Bcc: >X-Attachments: :Jude:381:Glove Selection 1/99: > >>Zack Mansdorf, Ph.D., CIH, CSP, put together the "Quick Selection Guide to >>Chemical Protective Clothing" published by Van Nostrand Reinhold. Very >>useful...covers both suits and gloves. > >Scott--Greetings! I like the Mansdorf book, too, and I use it to confirm >glove selection that I have been doing. I have attached a copy of the glove >selection document on which I am working. How are things going? Run >out of stuff to do yet? I hope all is well with you and Trena. Tom ********************************************************* Tom Shelley, Chemical Hygiene Officer, Cornell University Department of Environmental Health and Safety, 125 Humphreys Service Building, Ithaca, NY 14853. (607) 255-4288 tjs1@cornell.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 10:06:11 -0400 Reply-To: wessonl@co.oakland.mi.us Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Larry Wesson Organization: Oakland County Michigan Subject: Re: two prong / three prong electrical cords MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nick Pinizzotto wrote: > > Hi folks, > > We just completed a CAP(College of American Pathologists) inspection in our > clinical labs and were cited for having two prong electrical cords (found only > on radios and other small ticket items). Nick, we are having the same problem here in Michigan. The inspection training has not kept up with the manufacturers of electric devices. The electrocution safe guards are now built into the appliances. Go down to your local Sears store and check their line of electric powered hand tools, all have two-prong electricial cords. You are correct in your statement about the GFCI device being your best protection, the electric cord on the appliance only protects you from it's own internal short circuits. Do not modify any type of appliance as it then becomes your design with all the nasty sidebars like liability. Larry Wesson Safety Coordinator/Fire Marshal Oakland County Michigan ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 10:21:25 -0400 Reply-To: "edmiston@bluffton.edu" Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Michael Edmiston Organization: Bluffton College Subject: two prong / three prong electrical cords MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A two-pronged polarized plug only has one advantage over a two-pronged non-polarized plug... it puts the "hot" side of the AC wiring in places harder to reach. The best example is a polarized lamp with a typical screw-in incandescent bulb. When the bulb is unscrewed and a new one is being inserted, you might come in contact with the threads of the bulb (while you're screwing it in) or the threads of the socket (if you stick your finger partly into it). It is much less likely that you will contact the center connection unless you stick your finger deeply into the socket. Therefore, if either the threads or the center contact must be "hot," (because you failed to unplug the lamp when you changed the bulb) it is far safer that the threads are neutral and the center connection is hot. That is, put the hot connection in the position least likely to be touched. This is exactly what the polarized plug does, assuming the outlet is wired correctly. This is all it does... nothing more. In TV's, radios, etc. the polarized plug is an attempt to make sure that anything a person is likely to touch (directly or from a kid sticking a knife into an air vent) is neutral rather than ground. That's all the polarized plug does. A double insulated device need not have a polarized plug because the device has been certified to have no way for the user to come in contact with a hot conductive object, even if the internal wiring fails. DI works in mildly moist areas, but not in the rain or total immersion. A grounded (three-prong) device surrounds the hot electronics with a grounded case. Anything the user touches should be ground. If an internal short occurs, the fuse/circuit breaker promptly blows because the grounded case draws sufficient current from the fault to blow the breaker. If this instrument is immersed (while plugged in) it may not blow the breaker, but at least the metal body forms a grounded "faraday cage" around the inner electronics and the water external to the device is not likely to be "energized." By far, the best protection is a ground-fault-circuit-interrupter (GFCI). These compare the hot current to the neutral current and open the circuit if a difference is detected. They work equally well with two-prong polarized, two-prong non-polarized, and three pronged devices. In other words... the cord doesn't matter. This is the best bet for radios and other consumer electronics in the lab. Some devices (like toasters) are better off not grounded (but GFCI is still desired). Suppose someone attacks a stuck piece of toast with a knife. As long as the person is not grounded (not touching the sink faucet) they are not likely to be shocked if the knife contacts the hot heating element. However, if the toaster is grounded, and the person is holding the toaster in one hand while using the knife with the other hand... look out. This scenario is so likely that toasters are much safer ungrounded. However, safest is a toaster plugged into a GFCI. Michael D. Edmiston, Ph.D. Phone/voice-mail: 419-358-3270 Professor of Chemistry & Physics FAX: 419-358-3323 Chairman, Science Department E-Mail edmiston@bluffton.edu Bluffton College 280 West College Avenue Bluffton, OH 45817 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 11:14:14 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Davis, Scott" Subject: Acid sinks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Just got word of a lab upgrade on campus. Included is the addition of "Acid Sinks." As I understand it, these are chemically resistant sinks that drain into 5-10 gallon collection basins. Sounds gnarly to me. Obviously there are compatibility concerns. My question is...is this an O.K. thing to do? Is it done all the time and I just haven't seen it until now? What are some things I need to check before these things are installed? Scott Davis, CIH University Industrial Hygienist UNC Charlotte 704-547-4279 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 12:31:43 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Jon Rossillon Subject: Re: Acid sinks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BE962A.11D61C30" ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE962A.11D61C30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Scott, If you can, don't allow them to be installed. The theory behind them is = great and all, but in practice they end up being glorified filters that = clog up and back up over time. We've had trouble with them several = times here at KU over the past five years. As a waste purist, I = personally do not think that any acidic material should be going down = the drain. Regards, Jon Rossillon jrossillon@ehs.ukans.edu University of Kansas - EHS Dept. ---------- From: Davis, Scott Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 10:14 AM To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU Subject: Acid sinks Just got word of a lab upgrade on campus. Included is the addition of = "Acid Sinks." As I understand it, these are chemically resistant sinks that drain into 5-10 gallon collection basins. Sounds gnarly to me. = Obviously there are compatibility concerns. My question is...is this an O.K. = thing to do? Is it done all the time and I just haven't seen it until now? What = are some things I need to check before these things are installed? Scott Davis, CIH University Industrial Hygienist UNC Charlotte 704-547-4279 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:41:54 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Russ Phifer Subject: Administratum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At the risk of sanction by my fellow mailserv members, I present the following press release in the general interest... PRESS RELEASE The heaviest element known to science was recently discovered by chemists. The element, tentatively named Administratum, has no protons or electrons and thus has an atomic number of 0. However it does have: 1 neutron. 125 assistant neutrons 75 vice-neutrons 111 assistant vice-neutrons This gives it an atomic mass of 312. The 312 particles are held together by a force that involves the continuous exchange of meson-like particles called morons. Since it has no electrons, Administratum is inert. However, it can be detected chemically as it impedes every action with which it comes in contact. According to the discoverers, a minute amount of Administratum causes one reaction to take four days to complete when it would have normally occurred in less than one second. Administratum has a normal half-life of approximately three years, at which time it does not actually decay but instead undergoes a reorganization in which assistant neutrons, vice neutrons, and assistant vice-neutrons exchange places. Some studies have shown that atomic mass actually increases after each reorganization. Research at other laboratories indicates that Administratum occurs naturally in the atmosphere. It tends to concentrate at certain points such as government agencies, large corporations, and universities and can usually be found in the newest, best appointed, and best maintained buildings. Chemists point out that Administratum is known to be toxic at any level of concentration and can easily destroy any productive reaction where it is allowed to accumulate. Attempts are being made to determine how Administratum can be controlled to prevent irreversible damage, but results to date are not promising. It is assumed, however, that Committeeium can neutralize Administratum damage by issuing irrelevant voluminous reports. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:06:30 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Mary Ann Solstad Subject: Re: Laboratory ventilation In-Reply-To: <199905031901.PAA03403@freenet4.afn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Why remove it? Seems like a dash of extra ventilation would be good. Mary Ann At 03:01 PM 5/3/99 -0400, you wrote: snip> Our chemical storage >is in a building which is detached from the laboratories. It has air >conditioning/heating and a separate exhaust fan that only comes on when the >lights are turned on. We are considering removing the exhaust fan if the AC >unit can handle the necessary air changes per hour. snip > >Julie O'Brien >PO Box 1466 >Gainesville, FL 32602 >352-376-8246 ext. 232 >Fax 352-373-7503 >afn35210@afn.org > >Education/Exhibits Committee Volunteer >EXPO The Children's Museum of Gainesville >PO Box 5951 >Gainesville, FL 32627 > Mary Ann Solstad, CIH 4 A's of Safety SOLSTAD Health & Safety Evaluations Attitude 16 Pequot Rd, Marblehead, MA 01945 Awareness 781-631-4748 tel, 781-631-1832 FAX Automatic Application Authority Past Chair, DivCHAS, ACS msolstad@mediaone.net ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:20:21 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Janeen LaPierre Subject: Re: Administratum Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks Russ. I need a good laugh to clear my head. Janeen:) :):):):):):):):):):):):) Janeen Lapierre, CHO College of Osteopathic Medicine University of New England 11 Hills Beach Road Biddeford, ME 04005 E-Mail: JLaPierre@MAILBOX.UNE.EDU Phone: (207) 283-0170 ext 2446 Opinions are mine and not those of UNE. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:23:09 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Don Abramowitz Subject: Re: Laboratory ventillation In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I was going to say the same thing about OSHA 1910.106. A couple of add-ons: The 6 air changes/ hour is not health based - it's strictly intended to prevent the accumulation of flammable/explosive concentrations of vapors. Every chemical storage room is not a flammable liquid storage room, even if it has flammable liquids in it. The specified requirements in the standard for a flammable liquid storage room are triggered by the quantity of flamm. liquids you intend to store. If you can store all your flammables in flammable liquid storage cabinets, the room itself may not need to meet the specs. - it all depends on the max. quantities permitted in cabinets in the room. Check the tables in the standard. ( The spec is not a bad start for a chem storage room though, whether you truly need one or not.) I know of no other standard that addresses this, but there is a mention of a general ventilation rate of 8- 10 air changes per hour for haz waste storage rooms in "Guidelilnes for Laboratory Design", 2nd edition, by Lou Diberadinis, if that helps any. The book also points out lots of other design considerations. Don >We have been through this experience about a year ago. BWC (Bureau of >Workmen's Comp) came in and did and walk through. They cited > >OSHA1910.106 standard (d)(4)(iv) > >Ventilation. Every inside storage room shall be provided with either a >gravity or a mechanical exhaust ventilation system. Such system shall be >designed to provide for a complete change of air within the room at least >six times per hour. If a mechanical exhaust system is used, it shall be >controlled by a switch located outside of the door. The ventilating >equipment and any lighting fixtures shall be operated by the same switch. >A pilot light shall be installed adjacent to the switch if Class I >flammable liquids are dispensed within the room. Where gravity ventilation >is provided, the fresh air intake, as well as the exhuast outlet from the >room, shall be on the exterior of the building in which the room is located. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Donald Abramowitz, CIH Occupational and Environmental Safety Officer Bryn Mawr College | Swarthmore College 101 N. Merion Avenue | 500 College Avenue Bryn Mawr, PA 19010 | Swarthmore PA 19081 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:35:01 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Ilona Fiser Subject: Re: Administratum In-Reply-To: <19990504.134408.-635473.1.envasset@juno.com>; from "Russ Phifer" at May 4, 99 1:41 pm LOVE IT IT IS ALL OVER THE PLANET EARTH !!!!! OUCH! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Carleton University Email address: ifiser@ccs.carleton.ca ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:49:52 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Mary Ann Solstad Subject: Re: Acid sinks In-Reply-To: <01BE962A.11D49590@ROSSILLON1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Call it a corrosives sink. A dash of HCl and a dash of NaOH and pretty soon you have hot salt water. \:<) Mary Ann > As a waste purist, I personally do not think that any acidic material should be going down the drain. > >Regards, > >Jon Rossillon >jrossillon@ehs.ukans.edu >University of Kansas - EHS Dept. > >---------- >From: Davis, Scott >Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 10:14 AM >To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU >Subject: Acid sinks > >Just got word of a lab upgrade on campus. Included is the addition of "Acid >Sinks." As I understand it, these are chemically resistant sinks that >drain into 5-10 gallon collection basins. Sounds gnarly to me. Obviously >there are compatibility concerns. My question is...is this an O.K. thing to >do? Is it done all the time and I just haven't seen it until now? What are >some things I need to check before these things are installed? > >Scott Davis, CIH >University Industrial Hygienist >UNC Charlotte >704-547-4279 > >Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\Re Acid sinks" > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 16:22:18 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Don Abramowitz Subject: Re: Laboratory ventilation In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990504140630.00b96100@pop.ne.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ditto on the exhaust fan. Also, if your detached chemical storage room has its own AC/heating package, make certain that it in fact circulates outside air. Many packaged AC/heating systems are 100% recirculating. If the store room is working off of a larger building's system, there might also be concern about the return air from the store room being distributed throughout the larger building. Don >Why remove it? Seems like a dash of extra ventilation would be good. > >Mary Ann > > >At 03:01 PM 5/3/99 -0400, you wrote: >snip> Our chemical storage >>is in a building which is detached from the laboratories. It has air >>conditioning/heating and a separate exhaust fan that only comes on when the >>lights are turned on. We are considering removing the exhaust fan if the AC >>unit can handle the necessary air changes per hour. snip >> >>Julie O'Brien >>PO Box 1466 >>Gainesville, FL 32602 >>352-376-8246 ext. 232 >>Fax 352-373-7503 >>afn35210@afn.org >> >>Education/Exhibits Committee Volunteer >>EXPO The Children's Museum of Gainesville >>PO Box 5951 >>Gainesville, FL 32627 >> >Mary Ann Solstad, CIH 4 A's of Safety >SOLSTAD Health & Safety Evaluations Attitude >16 Pequot Rd, Marblehead, MA 01945 Awareness >781-631-4748 tel, 781-631-1832 FAX Automatic Application > Authority >Past Chair, DivCHAS, ACS >msolstad@mediaone.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Donald Abramowitz, CIH Occupational and Environmental Safety Officer Bryn Mawr College | Swarthmore College 101 N. Merion Avenue | 500 College Avenue Bryn Mawr, PA 19010 | Swarthmore PA 19081 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 17:12:21 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Patricia DePra Subject: enough! please respect the time of your colleagues O.k., it's the end of the semester, and I'm aware that I'm extremely sensitive to things that waste my time, but it seems as though we need a few reminders. Please use this listserv for safety issues only. Please send personal responses directly to the person, not to the list. DO NOT hit return to reply unless you want all of us to see it. I receive over 100 emails per day, and I really hate reading old jokes for the 50th time, then more messages saying 'isn't that funny' then more messages saying, 'Keep jokes off the listserv.' (Which I realize I'm adding to....) Please respect our time. Send jokes personally or through joke listservs, not here. And please, don't proliferate this by responding to me at all. Just agree to abide by the rules of the list. Thanks, A very stressed out prof who's up to her ears in lab reports, hazardous waste, panicking students, and poor politics.... --Patricia DePra ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 17:24:09 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Ross Williams Subject: Re: enough! please respect the time of your colleagues In-Reply-To: <99050417122180@foma.wsc.mass.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Please use this listserv for safety issues only. > >I really hate reading old jokes >for the 50th time, then more messages saying 'isn't that funny' then >more messages saying, 'Keep jokes off the listserv.' > >Plagerized from--Patricia DePra *********************************************** * Dr. R. E. Williams, Ph.D. * * EHS Management Services * * 180 Martin * * Ottawa, ON, Canada K1K 2V3 * * Tel: (613) 746-4288 * * e-mail: rewill@magma.ca * *********************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 17:59:48 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Burns Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Bob Burns Subject: Re: enough! please respect the time of your colleagues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LIGHTEN UP, DUDE! Just hit your delete button if something comes up you don't want to see. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross Williams To: Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 5:24 PM Subject: Re: enough! please respect the time of your colleagues > >Please use this listserv for safety issues only. > > > >I really hate reading old jokes > >for the 50th time, then more messages saying 'isn't that funny' then > >more messages saying, 'Keep jokes off the listserv.' > > > >Plagerized from--Patricia DePra > > > *********************************************** > * Dr. R. E. Williams, Ph.D. * > * EHS Management Services * > * 180 Martin * > * Ottawa, ON, Canada K1K 2V3 * > * Tel: (613) 746-4288 * > * e-mail: rewill@magma.ca * > *********************************************** > > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 17:13:37 -0500 Reply-To: "swiki@bihs.net" Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Swiki Anderson Subject: Re: Laboratory Ventilation and Minimum Number of Air Changes Per Hour MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Most of the time we do not learn from the past. Does a minimum number of air changes always result in good ventilation design and maximum containment of harmful material in a fume hood or other such capture devices? STOP AND THINK ABOUT THIS! 29 CFR 1910.1450, Occupational Exposure to Hazardous Chemicals in Laboratories, especially (e) Chemical Hygiene Plan, (3), (ii) and (iii); NFPA 45, Standard on Fire Protection of Laboratories Using Chemicals, 1996 edition; ANSI/AIHA Z9.5-1992, American National Standard for Laboratory Ventilation; ASHRAE 110, Method of Testing Performance of Laboratory Fume Hoods; and the dictates of Prudent Practice for Handling Chemicals in Laboratories. Our intent in review of these documents however must always be directed at achieving adequacy of concepts needed for proper control and maintainability of sustained system performance, and not simply the "letter of the law" in order to satisfy minimum dictates of the wording of the requirements. One does not equal that other and a minimum numbers of air changes per hour does not make a laboratory "safe". IN SOME CASES TOO MANY AIR CHANGES COMPOUND THE VENTILATION CONTAINMENT PROBLEM RATHER THAN AID IN MAKING THE LAB SAFER! The Federal Register, Wednesday, January 31, 1999, Vol. 55, No. 21, starting with pages 3300 promulgate 29 CFR 1910.1450, Occupational Exposure to Hazardous Chemicals in Laboratories, to include (e) Chemical Hygiene Plan. This also includes citations concerning documented and persistent laboratory ventilation problems. BUT WHY DO THE PROBLEMS PERSIST? If you want answers to these questions, visit http://www.saai-svc.com/engineer/html/tech-notes.htm. and read the article entitled "Fume Hoods and Laboratory Air Flow Systems: Lessons, Feature, and Improvements, from the "Old Saints" of the Atomic Energy Era Through Today" as well as articles written by other competent engineers and professionals. And, if, after you read this article, assuming you don't understand, please call me and allow me to share with you what I and others have learned. I will be delighted to do this pro bono, at the expense of my time and effort. A series of individual articles written and published by Jim Morris, an investigative reporter for the Houston Chronicle, over the past 13 months, attests to the price that some laboratory worker and user have had to pay because of someone else's ignorance or indifference. Find Sickening Results and "Slipshod practice frequently observed in college laboratories" published December 20, by click on "WEB LINKS and references to Laboratory Fire and Toxic Problems" at www.saai-svc.com/engineer/html/tech-notes.htm. Let us learn from the past and mistakes of others and be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem. WHAT'S THE JOB OF A SAFETY PROFESSIONAL AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW, THEN WHO DOES? Swiki Anderson, Ph.D. P.E., President Swiki Anderson and Associates, Inc. Consulting Electrical, Mechanical and Instrumentation Engineers Bryan, Texas (409) 779-6068, x11 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 20:11:18 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Burns Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Bob Burns Subject: Re: enough! please respect the time of your colleagues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rules? Who made the rules? Use your delete key. ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia DePra To: Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 5:12 PM Subject: enough! please respect the time of your colleagues > O.k., it's the end of the semester, and I'm aware that I'm extremely > sensitive to things that waste my time, but it seems as though we need > a few reminders. > > Please use this listserv for safety issues only. > > Please send personal responses directly to the person, not to the list. > DO NOT hit return to reply unless you want all of us to see it. > > I receive over 100 emails per day, and I really hate reading old jokes > for the 50th time, then more messages saying 'isn't that funny' then > more messages saying, 'Keep jokes off the listserv.' (Which I realize > I'm adding to....) Please respect our time. Send jokes personally or > through joke listservs, not here. > > And please, don't proliferate this by responding to me at all. Just > agree to abide by the rules of the list. > > Thanks, > A very stressed out prof who's up to her ears in lab reports, hazardous > waste, panicking students, and poor politics.... > --Patricia DePra > > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 20:50:20 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Labsafe@AOL.COM Subject: Administrative Reminders (occasional) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi NACHOs Periodically, I'll post to the list this series of administrative reminders. These are some guidelines for use of LABSAFETY-L. If you have any suggestions for changes (additions or subtractions), please send them to me directly unless they are of general interest to the whole group. Thanks to Linda Swihart for help to compile the list. ... jim Administrative Reminders..... 1. All messages should be related to lab safety or topics which will be of interest to chemical hygiene officers or lab safety professionals. Minimize tangential discussions. Please take them to private email. *** We will achieve a larger and more participative readership if we stick to this.*** 2. Please DO NOT send attachments to the list! They will bog down the mail server and fill the archives and digests with ASCII code. They will also be unreadable by many subscribers. If you have a file to share, announce its availability to the list, and attach it to private email to individuals who request it. (And the requests should be made in private email, not to the list.) 3. Keep in mind that when you REPLY to a message from the list, you will reply to the *entire* list, not just to the person to whose message you are replying. Usually. Keep an eye on which address appears in the "To:" box of your emailer when you press REPLY. 4. Please trim quoted text to a bare minumum when making replies. Everyone on the list receives every message, and you need only quote minimum pertinent parts to refresh the thread of discussion. At the same time, take care to keep quotes in context so as not to misrepresent another's remarks. 5. There are many excellent products and services that are available out there. LSW would like to encourage anyone who feels they have something of value for NACHO members to use LABSAFETY-L to let them know about the product or service. This policy is intentionally different from other discussion lists. It recognizes our need to solve lab safety/CHO problems with products and services as well as ideas. We also those who have used the product or service can comment on their experiences. Specific follow-up questions and requests should be directed personally and not to the discussion list. 6. Let's maintain a discussion environment that respects diverse points of views and opinions. Be patient, polite, and treat each other with kindness. 7. Membership in the National Assoiciation of Chemical Hygiene Officers (NACHO) is free and open to anyone who is a CHO or interested in lab safety issues. You join NACHO by subscribing to the LABSAFETY-L discussion list. LABSAFETY-L is a public service of the Laboratory Safety Workshop, the list owner. Please tell your friends and colleagues about NACHO and encourage them to join. 8. Typically many people on a list are "lurkers" (read but never post). LSW would like to encourage everyone to join in the conversation. If you have not yet participated, please post a short note introducing yourself and your interests in lab safety. The more active contributors can help encourage participation. Please continue the professional-while-cheerful demeanor and clear, readable messages which have characterized our first year. 9. No question is too basic for LABSAFETY-L. Some NACHO members have been in the field for a long time, others are just beginning. Welcome all new members and all questions. As we see recurring questions, let's develop FAQs for the web site. And, let's all learn to effectively use our archives. 10. Thank you for taking the time to review these reminders. Please share comments and suggestions directly with me. ... jim ***************************************************** James A. Kaufman, Director The Laboratory Safety Workshop Safety in Science Education 192 Worcester Road, Natick, MA 01760 508-647-1900 Fax: 508-647-0062 labsafe@aol.com http://www.labsafety.org/ LSW is a national non-profit educational organization dedicated to making health and safety an integral and important part of science education. Free copies of our Laboratory Safety Guidelines, seminar schedule, Publications List, AV-Lending Library List, and membership information are available on request. The LABSAFETY-L discussion list is a public service of LSW. ****************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 21:11:55 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Julie J. O'Brien" Subject: Re: Laboratory ventilation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Why remove it? Seems like a dash of extra ventilation would be good. > Our building is separate from others in the facility. It has a separate heat/AC unit. During the "summertime" (which is most of the year in Florida), the exhaust fan sucks out all of the cool air in the building and replaces it with very warm humid air. The bottles get warm and moisture condenses on the bottles. Sometimes the bottles break if the temperature changes too quickly. The labels on the bottle do not last well. And there are a whole host of other problems. We inspect the building regularly to prevent most things from occurring. If we had an AC unit which could compensate for the exhaust fan, I would not be interested in disconnecting the exhaust. However, the AC unit cannot. It is sized so that it is supposed to be able to handle it. We might have to just get a much bigger unit. I just wanted to know what our options are. Thanks to everyone for their advice. Julie O'Brien Julie O'Brien EXPO The Children's Museum of Gainesville Education and Exhibits Committee PO Box 5951 Gainesville, FL 32627 Archimica (Florida) Inc. [formerly PCR] Chemist, Research & Development PO Box 1466 Gainesville, FL 32602 352-376-8246 ext. 232 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 12:37:36 -0300 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Aziz M. Abu-khalaf" Subject: enough! please respect the time of your colleagues Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Patricia, >DO NOT hit return to reply unless you want all of us to see it.< The problem is that ALL of them want ALL of us to see it! Take it easy. **************************************************************************** ******* Aziz M. Abu-Khalaf ***** Tel: 00966 1 4676894 Chemical Engineering Department ***** Fax: 00966 1 4678770 King Saud University ***** E-mail: amkhalaf@ksu.edu.sa PO Box 800 ***** Riyadh 11421, Saudi Arabia ***** **************************************************************************** ******* ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 06:06:13 EDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Labsafe@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Double Insulated Appliances MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit n a message dated 99-05-04 10:29:22 EDT, you write: << A double insulated device need not have a polarized plug because the device has been certified to have no way for the user to come in contact with a hot conductive object, even if the internal wiring fails. >> Hi NACHO's Sorry but I believe this is a dangerously incorrect statement. For example, if you take a double insulated drill or skill saw with a two prong unpolarized plug and plug it in backwards, the chuck or saw blade will be 120 volts hot to ground (even though it's off and double insulated). You can test this very simply with an AC volt meter. One prong on the chuck or blade and one on a sure ground. I've done it many times Now use your imagination. If you were to grab the chuck with one wet hand and touch a ground with the other, you be dead fasters than you can say "Oops, I guess Jim was on to something here!" Ed Egan, former OSHA electrical safety expert, maintained that about 35 people per year die in the USA due to this problem. But don't take my word for it. Do the test and then post the results here. Just remember, you are going to be dealing with 120 volts AC. Make sure you know what you're doing or don't do it. ..... Jim ***************************************************** James A. Kaufman, Director The Laboratory Safety Workshop Safety in Science Education 192 Worcester Road, Natick, MA 01760 508-647-1900 Fax: 508-647-0062 labsafe@aol.com http://www.labsafety.org/ LSW is a national non-profit educational organization dedicated to making health and safety an integral and important part of science education. Free copies of our Laboratory Safety Guidelines, seminar schedule, Publications List, AV-Lending Library List, and membership information are available on request. The LABSAFETY-L discussion list is a public service of LSW. ****************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 08:10:02 -0400 Reply-To: tom@RAGS.kent.edu Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Tom Bialke Organization: Kent State University Subject: Re: enough! please respect the time of your colleagues Comments: To: Bob Burns In-Reply-To: <000701be968b$cd81a9c0$4861add1@ucrpd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Who made the rule that you must read everthing that is sent to you? Use the delete key!!! On 4 May 99, at 20:11, Bob Burns wrote: Date sent: Tue, 4 May 1999 20:11:18 -0400 Send reply to: Bob Burns From: Bob Burns Subject: Re: enough! please respect the time of your colleagues To: LABSAFETY-L@SIU.EDU > Rules? Who made the rules? > > Use your delete key. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Patricia DePra > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 5:12 PM > Subject: enough! please respect the time of your colleagues > > > > O.k., it's the end of the semester, and I'm aware that I'm extremely > > sensitive to things that waste my time, but it seems as though we need a > > few reminders. > > > > Please use this listserv for safety issues only. > > > > Please send personal responses directly to the person, not to the list. > > DO NOT hit return to reply unless you want all of us to see it. > > > > I receive over 100 emails per day, and I really hate reading old jokes > > for the 50th time, then more messages saying 'isn't that funny' then > > more messages saying, 'Keep jokes off the listserv.' (Which I realize > > I'm adding to....) Please respect our time. Send jokes personally or > > through joke listservs, not here. > > > > And please, don't proliferate this by responding to me at all. Just > > agree to abide by the rules of the list. > > > > Thanks, > > A very stressed out prof who's up to her ears in lab reports, hazardous > > waste, panicking students, and poor politics.... --Patricia DePra > > > > Tom Bialke TOM@RAGS.KENT.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:38:36 -0400 Reply-To: tom@RAGS.kent.edu Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Tayman, Tammy" Subject: Re: enough! please respect the time of your colleagues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Folks, I hate to add to the hoopla here, but I couldn't help myself. I just got through readin two weeks of messages like this on another list that I am on. The bottom line I'm after is this: Listservs have List Admins. In our case, I believe it is Jim Kaufman (LabSafe). One of the jobs of a List Admin is to "police" the list. That means when someone starts flaming or posting inappropriate (for *whatever* reason) messages to the list, the List Admin quietly contacts them directly and reminds them of the list protocols and asks them to stop. If they persist in inappropriate postings, the List Admin then starts proceedings to remove them from the list. In this manner, the problem is handled and no one has to read 4-40 messages back and forth about what-a-pain-it-is-to-read-whatever-no-its-not-I-like-it-no-you-are-wrong-no- I'm-not, etc. It's amazing how much more pleasant and civilized a list becomes when handled in this manner. BTW, please flame me off the list, as I really don't want to be responsible for another two days of such messages. Thanx! Tammy Tayman ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 10:19:33 -0400 Reply-To: "edmiston@bluffton.edu" Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Michael Edmiston Organization: Bluffton College Subject: Re: two prong / three prong electrical cords Comments: To: "Labsafe@aol.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I beg to differ with Jim Kaufman on this one. He is absolutely wrong. If you plug a non-polarized double-insulated drill into 120 VAC "the wrong direction" and get 120 VAC on the chuck... you don't have a double insulated drill. To qualify as DI, there must not be a complete conductive path between any power wiring and any exposed metal (conductive) parts. If electricity is getting onto a drill chuck, then by definition that drill is not DI. A properly designed DI drill will have one or more nylon gears (as oppose to all metal gears) so there is no metal link between the motor and chuck. With a plastic body and at least one nylon gear, the chuck cannot become electrically "live" unless the drill is defective in a major way... for example an internal wire breaks and positions itself in contact with the metal chuck drive. In a properly designed DI drill that cannot happen because the wiring paths inside the plastic housing are supposed to have barriers so that broken/loose wires cannot "position themselves" in contact with conductive parts leading to the exterior. I suppose it could happen that some inferior drills are calling themselves DI and maybe falsely claiming Underwriters Lab (UL) compliance. But a drill that truly complies with UL standards for the DI label cannot behave as Kaufman described. Also note that Kaufman somewhat contradicts some of his other writing in his DI message when he discusses plugging a non-polarized plug in "the wrong way" verses a separate e-mail posting about switches only disconnecting one side of the AC wiring. The switch e-mail implies some understanding about what "inside" and what might go wrong, but the non-polarized e-mail doesn't substantiate that understanding. If there is a direct connection between any AC wire (hot, neutral, in-between) and any exposed metal parts, that device is defective and it doesn't matter what direction you insert the plug or where the switch is... you can be in danger. The danger nay be present with the switch on or off depending upon what type of defect we have. Defects in neutral wires are not necessarily less hazardous that defects in hot wires. Although the neutral wire may not have as high a potential as the hot wire, the neutral wire is not ground... that would only be possible with superconducting wiring. If the wire carries current, and has resistance, it's got a potential difference across it. But more importantly, read the next paragraph. If the neutral wire breaks in a device, and part of it comes into contact with exposed conductive parts, you have one of two problems, one bad and one not so good. The not-so-good situation is when the neutral wire contacting the exposed metal is on the outlet side of the device. This puts you into contact with the building neutral wire... but that wire does have potential on it (unless there are zero operating devices in the rest of that building). You can be shocked, but not likely too badly because this is likely a fairly low potential. If the broken neutral wire is on the device side (say coming from the motor of a drill) then when you touch the exposed metal you are connected to hot through the motor windings. Although the motor winding has some impedance, it's not enough, and you are in trouble if you are otherwise grounded. Now take the above scenario and reverse the plug in the outlet. Now whether you are in bad trouble or not-so-good trouble reverses. The outlet-side of the wire in contact is tha worst case, and the motor side is the better (but still bad) case. The point here is this... if an electronic device becomes defective such that ANY internal wiring comes into contact with exposed metal parts, then polarized verses non-polarized plugs don't mean a thing. They are equally dangerous. Short of repairing or discarding the device, only two things help remedy this situation: (1) a valid third ground wire to the metal chassis will keep the exposed metal at ground potential, blowing the circuit breaker if necessary; (2) a GFCI will detect the leakage current and deactivate the circuit. A POLARIZED TWO-WIRE (NOT GROUNDED) PLUG IS NO PROTECTION WITH A DEFECTIVE TOOL. And a non-polarized two-wire plug is perfectly acceptable in a properly constructed DI tool. Consider this: in a properly constructed DI tool (1) there is no place to connect a ground wire (i.e. which piece of plastic are you going to connect to the ground wire) and (2) there is no logical choice of which side of the polarized two-wire plug to connect to either side of the device because both device wires are equivalent. (This is a bit like asking which is the hot and neutral wire of a generic transformer: there's no difference. Likewise, there is no difference in the two ends of the wire used as a motor winding.) If Kaufman is measuring a voltage on the chuck of a drill, there are a couple possibilities. (1) The drill is defective in a major way. (2) He is measuring inductive voltages that have no shock hazard. With a high-impedance voltmeter you can measure "potentials" that have no ability to deliver significant current. Perhaps this is what he is measuring. Michael D. Edmiston, Ph.D. Phone/voice-mail: 419-358-3270 Professor of Chemistry & Physics FAX: 419-358-3323 Chairman, Science Department E-Mail edmiston@bluffton.edu Bluffton College 280 West College Avenue Bluffton, OH 45817 -----Original Message----- From: Labsafe@aol.com [SMTP:Labsafe@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 8:50 PM To: edmiston@bluffton.edu Subject: Re: two prong / three prong electrical cords In a message dated 99-05-04 10:29:22 EDT, you write: << A double insulated device need not have a polarized plug because the device has been certified to have no way for the user to come in contact with a hot conductive object, even if the internal wiring fails. >> Hi NACHO's Sorry but I believe this is a dangerously incorrect statement. For example, if you take a double insulated drill or skill saw with a two prong unpolarized plug and plug it in backwards, the chuck or saw blade will be 120 volts hot to ground (even though it's off and double insulated). You can test this very simply with an AC volt meter. One prong on the chuck or blade and one on a sure ground. I've done it many times Now use your imagination. If you were to grab the chuck with one wet hand and touch a ground with the other, you be dead fasters than you can say "Oops, I guess Jim was on to something here!" Ed Egan, former OSHA electrical safety expert, maintained that about 35 people per year die in the USA due to this problem. But don't take my word for it. Do the test and then post the results here. Just remember, you are going to be dealing with 120 volts AC. Make sure you know what you're doing or don't do it. ..... Jim ***************************************************** James A. Kaufman, Director The Laboratory Safety Workshop Safety in Science Education 192 Worcester Road, Natick, MA 01760 508-647-1900 Fax: 508-647-0062 labsafe@aol.com http://www.labsafety.org/ LSW is a national non-profit educational organization dedicated to making health and safety an integral and important part of science education. Free copies of our Laboratory Safety Guidelines, seminar schedule, Publications List, AV-Lending Library List, and membership information are available on request. The LABSAFETY-L discussion list is a public service of LSW. ****************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 11:25:17 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Nick Pinizzotto Subject: Acid sinks In-Reply-To: <82ACF9C810A5D211B13100A0C9EBE41EB54178@email.uncc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott, My advice: Avoid them at all costs. They are nothing but a headache. We disconnected a bunch years ago that were installed in our clinical labs. We were having such problems with clogging and sulphur odors that we just removed them. If you look deeper into your situation, I'd be willing to bet that there is a person (who doesn't know a whole lot about labs) driving the requirement for those things because he/she heard somewhere that labs use alot of acid. If you can, have a Ph probe installed in the main waste line coming from the lab and run it over the course of a month. This will likely give you the ammunition to argue the fact that you don't need them. We're dealing with a 24,000 gallon acid neutralization tank in our most recent ly built lab research building.City code officials made us put it in even though we argued against it over 10 years ago. They later told us if we could document that the pH was 5-9 upstream of the tank, we could disconnect it. pH is at 6-7 consistently but we couldn't afford to disconnect it because of the cost involved. Now we're looking at sucking out the limestone chips because the stench coming out of the ventline (rotten eggs) is all that the people on the first floor can handle! Concentrate on making people in the labs dispose of their material properly.It'll save you alot of aggravation in the end. Nick Pinizzotto Environmental Health Officer Dept. Environmental Health & Safety Thomas Jefferson University nick.pinizzotto@mail.tju.edu 215-503-5853 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 11:31:52 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Don Abramowitz Subject: Re: 2/3 prong plug and GFI In-Reply-To: <21965a87.24602849@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" < To prevent a shock from grounding in water, one needs a GIF plug which > kills the circuit when it senses a high current flow; >> > >No. Actually it kills the circuit when it senses a LOW current flow of 1-2 >milliamps. At the risk of tedium, my understanding is that the GFCI trips off in response to a difference in currrent flow between the hot and neutral conductors (that difference might be the 1-2 milliamps referred to above). The principle is that the current entering the appliance/tool should be the same as that exiting it, so if the hot and neutral are not carrying the same flow, some of that current is going someplace else, which might be the person using the device. The GFCI will work regardless of the polarity of the circuit or plug-in device. Don ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 12:06:16 -0500 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Don Abramowitz Subject: Re: Acid sinks In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >If you can, have a Ph probe installed in the main waste line coming from the >lab and run it over the course of a month. We've got the same problem with a neutral. system. One alternative on this point in Nick's sage advice: Install a tap in the main waste line, if a pH probe is not practical for you. We found the gunk build-up quickly trashed the pH probes (unless there is a new and improved model available these days). With a tap, you can draw grab samples for testing, or perhaps set it for a slow drip and collect a jug's worth over a longer time period for averaging (though sample integrity could be compromised if you do this for too long). I've also found the tap useful for grabs samples to test for heavy metals and solvents, just to see if we really are keeping these things out of the sinks. Have a disconnectable fitting installed on the tap (a threaded fitting that will accept a plug, for example) so you can remove the tap valve for cleaning - these also gunk up eventually in this service. Don ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Donald Abramowitz, CIH Occupational and Environmental Safety Officer Bryn Mawr College | Swarthmore College 101 N. Merion Avenue | 500 College Avenue Bryn Mawr, PA 19010 | Swarthmore PA 19081 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 11:49:00 +0000 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Herman curtis Subject: Re: two prong / three prong electrical cords MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Michael Edmiston wrote: >..... Although the neutral wire may not have as high a potential as >the hot wire, the neutral wire is not ground... that would only be >possible with superconducting wiring. If the wire carries current, >and has resistance, it's got a potential difference across it. ..... Sure it has a potential difference across it, but if it is more than a volt or two the circuit is highly overloaded or the neutral wire has a defect. The neutral carries current but it is connected to ground. The round hole of three-prong outlets is also connected to ground but it doesn't carry current (unless the drill develops a short). If you get a shock from the neutral side of the line you need to call an electrician. Herman Curtis Department of Physical Science Cameron University 2800 W Gore Blvd Lawton, OK 73505 hermanc@cameron.edu (580)591-8007 ,(580)581-2323 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:21:28 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Scott Hurd Organization: META Environmental, Inc. Subject: Re: two prong / three prong electrical cords MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello LabSafety Listers: Michael Edmiston wrote: [snip] > breaker. If this instrument is immersed (while plugged in) it may not > blow the breaker, but at least the metal body forms a grounded "faraday [snip] I have seen a demonstration of just such an event. One of the cable U-Do-It/ U-Fix-It shows on TLC or TDC (not sure) immersed a running drill in water. The first time it was immersed with no GFCI protection and the second with GFCI protection. With no GFCI protection: the drill _kept_ running while jetting water from the fan housing!! With GFCI protection: the drill immediately stopped. HTH. Scott Hurd ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 13:32:09 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Cohen, Barry" Subject: Job Opportunity Comments: To: Safety-Messages , Biosafety-Messages PLEASE REPLY TO THE CONTACT LISTED BELOW. 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In our case, I believe it is Jim Kaufman (LabSafe). One of the jobs of a List Admin is to "police" the list. That means when someone starts flaming or posting inappropriate (for *whatever* reason) messages to the list, the List Admin quietly contacts them directly and reminds them of the list protocols and asks them to stop. >> Hi NACHO's, My approach as list owner on this occasion has been to post our "Administrative Reminders." One of the points there is that this list is for lab safety/cho discussion. It is not for jokes. Please don't misunderstand, I like jokes. I think this just not the place for them. Please share them privately with me and others. Thanks. ... Jim PS. It look like the NACHO meeting at LS&EM will be Tuesday evening July 27th after the reception. 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Recent updates are largely terrorism references, but those may be useful for EHS-types. The list is based on my opinions and doesn't represent commercial endorsements by me, UT, State of Texas, Province of Manitoba, etc. Onward, JNR Jeff Rubin, Asst. Dean for EHS College of Natural Sciences G2500 W.C. Hogg Building University of Texas at Austin Austin, TX 78712-1199 (512) 471-6176 (O) (512) 471-4998 (F) jrubin@mail.utexas.edu http://www.utexas.edu/cons/safety/ "The opinions of Dr. Rubin are not meant to offend anyone unless otherwise specified." ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 08:21:23 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Gordon Miller Subject: Re: AIHA Conference, Toronto In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I will be attending the AIHCE in Toronto. ------------ >Are any other NACHOs going to the American Industrial Hygiene Assocation >Conference/Exposition in Toronto in June? If so, I'd like to figure out a >time for us to meet up, for lunch or something, to say hello in person. > >Please advise. > > Don > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Donald Abramowitz, CIH > Occupational and Environmental Safety Officer > > Bryn Mawr College | Swarthmore College > 101 N. Merion Avenue | 500 College Avenue > Bryn Mawr, PA 19010 | Swarthmore PA 19081 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 12:12:52 -0400 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Matthew Navea Subject: EHS Openings - Philadelphia Area Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I apologize for any cross postings. If anyone is interested the contact is listed below. Thanks. Discover what The Employer of Choice has to offer for these immediately available positions: ? Above market pay rate ? 100% Tuition Reimbursement ? 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Please send you resume with salary requirements to: COLORCON HR Department 415 Moyer Boulevard West Point, PA 19486 Fax to: (215) 661-2230 Email: bsteel@colorcon.com Visit our Website: www.colorcon.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 09:43:51 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Teresa Robertson Organization: CSU Bakersfield Subject: Website CHPs Comments: cc: trobertson@csubak.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear NACHOs, Who has their Chemical Hygiene Plans available on the WWW? I will soon be submitting suggestions for revisions to ours, and am interested in your CHPs for ideas. Thanks, Teresa Robertson, CCHO ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 10:15:53 PST8PDT Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: "Craig R. Burnett" Subject: Re: Website CHPs Comments: cc: scottb@ecs.csus.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Teresa: I don't have Cal State University, Sacramento's (CSUS) CHP on our Web Site but CSUS's Engineering Computer Science has their's posted, and it's well done. It's used as a reference by other Colleges and Universities. http://www.ecs.csus.edu/techshop/ChemPlan.html Regards, Craig Craig R. Burnett Chemical Hygiene Officer Environmental Health & Safety California State University, Sacramento 6000 J Street Sacramento, CA 95819-6085 (916) 278-5165, (916) 278-4359 FAX E-mail: cburnett@csus.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 10:32:41 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: James Kapin Subject: Re: Website CHPs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Our new Laboratory Safety Guide is available for comment at . This document integrates the CHP along with other regulatory requirtements into a format we hope will be easy for labs to use. This is a big change for us, we will move out of the Draft/Pilot stage in a week or two, so I would appreciate any comments - Jim At 09:43 AM 5/7/99 -0700, you wrote: >Dear NACHOs, > >Who has their Chemical Hygiene Plans available on the WWW? I will soon >be submitting suggestions for revisions to ours, and am interested in >your CHPs for ideas. > >Thanks, >Teresa Robertson, CCHO > Jim Kapin UCSD Chemical Safety Officer Mail Code 0920 9500 Gilman Drive, La Jolla CA 92093 (619)534-2823 fax (619)534-7982 mailto:jkapin@ucsd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 10:37:58 -0700 Reply-To: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Debbie Decker Subject: Re: Website CHPs In-Reply-To: <30A99C7781C@facmgmtserver.fm.csus.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:15 AM 5/7/99 PST8PDT, you wrote: >Teresa: I don't have Cal State University, Sacramento's (CSUS) CHP >on our Web Site but CSUS's Engineering Computer Science has their's >posted, and it's well done. It's used as a reference by other >Colleges and Universities. > >http://www.ecs.csus.edu/techshop/ChemPlan.html > >Regards, >Craig > >Craig R. Burnett >Chemical Hygiene Officer >Environmental Health & Safety >California State University, Sacramento >6000 J Street >Sacramento, CA 95819-6085 >(916) 278-5165, (916) 278-4359 FAX >E-mail: cburnett@csus.edu > > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:42:36 -0400 Reply-To: fullert@bc.edu Sender: LABSAFETY-L Discussion List From: Thomas Fuller Subject: